Obes And Ld.

**Oneiro** · 10-17-2006 02:30 PM

OBEs- a different type of LD?

About 10 years ago I discovered something quite different in my LD. I had been having OBEs quite regularly when I would nap after work in the late afternoon, but I had not much success in “moving around”.

Then, one afternoon, I found myself in a “cave”, looked at my hands, and realised I was dreaming.

To my left side were sitting my two young “nephews”, who had appeared before in my LD as DCs.

They looked at me expectantly and one said: “Go on then!”

I didn’t have a clue what they were talking about, and then one said: “Go on then! Do the jump!”

I realised that they were telling me “to jump”, so I took it literally and jumped up in the air on the spot. I rose up seemingly about 20 feet and then I came to a standstill at the top of the jump.. and then.. BANG!

There I was, in my living room, looking at my sleeping body, having an OBE..

I had “jumped” from a “normal” LD scenario into an “OBE” one, and I began to realise that an OBE was another type of lucid dream, closely connected to "normal" LD.

I have done it again since and it works almost every time, although often, as is the case with LD, I forget to try it, lose my dreaming attention, and get pulled into some bizarre dream with no lucidity.

Has anyone here had a similar experience? Does anyone here have OBEs during LD?

[NB For those who think that such a post belongs in the “Beyond Dreaming” forum, I would beg to differ].

**mindwalker** · 10-17-2006 06:15 PM

Not directly related, but I have to agree that OBE is a kind of LD. My second LD was an OBE, I saw myself sleeping, but not in my own bed. What was weird about it was that I clearly saw myself as as having a bit more weight that I thought of myself, only to have my wife tell me later that day that I have taken some weight - like in my dream I saw myself more realistically than what I normally think of myself. But it was definately a lucid dream.

Good reading on the relation of LDs and OBEs at the Lucidity Institute:OUT-OF-BODY EXPERIENCES AND LUCID DREAMS

**Oneiro** · 10-17-2006 06:57 PM

Well..thanks for the link, but I've read better. When you boil this article down, there's not a lot of substance to it.. and lots of filler to come to the conclusion which just says "maybe"..

.. but I appreciate your action.

**Oneiro** · 10-23-2006 03:37 PM

Can any of the Mods explain why this topic was moved from the General Lucid forum?

Because if you read my description, you will surely see that there was a connection between my LD and OBEs...

??

**Burns** · 10-24-2006 03:15 AM

I moved it because the General Lucid Dicussion is for LDs only - anything related to OBE's, etc., belongs in the Beyond Dreaming forum. I understand your topic also discusses LDs, but I felt it was better suited here.

**Rhubes** · 10-26-2006 04:29 AM

Originally Posted by Burns

I moved it because the General Lucid Dicussion is for LDs only - anything related to OBE's, etc., belongs in the Beyond Dreaming forum. I understand your topic also discusses LDs, but I felt it was better suited here.
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IMO OBEs are just LDs without the story/weird crap going on..

I've only had one concious OBE/astral projection, but I've been trying to do more and I find I can't because I always am either not relaxed enough, or I maintain a TOO high level of conciousness...

I really want someone teach me to do them better...

**Astral Explorer** · 11-25-2006 05:58 AM

Yes you can be in a lucid dream and go into a OBE.

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