Control Of Our Mind

[ExoByte]

I was speaking with my father on the subject of Adrenalin. Adrenalin is a chemical that your brain releases in times of need, or fear. This chemical mixes with your blood, and enhances everything about you. Makes your much stronger, faster, in a sense smarter, gives you faster reflexes, better eye sight, enhanced hearing, the works. This rush, in a sense, makes you what we would define as "Super Human." This rush can give you the strength to rip off a car door should you feel the need to save someone trapped, or fight off a bear should you be attacked. Usually these rushes only last around 10-15 seconds. In rare instances they can last a few minutes. However, there is a reason for this short lasting boost. The body is only built to handel so much. Should you have this chemical giving you its affect for too long, your body could fail. Your heart could go nuts and explode, you could break your own bones running. One key element for the chemical to work however is that the brain needs to be willing. Not only does it send the chemical, but it also sends very special electric pulses to trigger it. Some people have tried mimicing this effect by injecting pure adrenalin into their blood, then giving themselves a small shock. They've had no luck. The brain still needs to be willing. This brings me to my main point. Its been studied, and we are told that we only ever use %10 of our brain. The other %90 is usually working about on its own accord. What would happen if we were to have %100 control of our brain? This would bring upon MANY benifits, but also great risks(such as you would have to control your heart, lungs, liver, immune system, nervous system ect. yourself) We all know of the pyramids and the Sphinx. Some believe they were built by an alien race. However, it is my belief that it was normal human beings like us, however the difference being, they had more control over their minds. Perhaps this control allowed them to safely control their adrenalin levels. They were very short manned, yet they built these great structures on their own. Perhaps they had more control over their minds because of something they ate, something in the atmosphere at the time... or perhaps it was natural. Humanity is constantly degrading. We are becoming lazy, and need to think less. This possibly could be lessening the use of our minds. Only a few decades ago they would do ANY math in their head. Now we have calculators. Before you'd need to walk to get something miles away, now you drive. We are becoming smarter, but also be coming dumber at the same time. Its soon going to come to a point, where we no longer use enough of our mind to come up with creative ideas. At that point, nothing new will be created and we will be at a technological standstill. Our generation will not have to worry about that. However, the aspect that we may once of had more than %10 control of our minds is intriguing. What would happen if we just had an extra %5? or an extra %10? What would we be able to do with that kind of control? I have an idea for the comunity. Unlock your mind. When we dream, our mind is playing images relating to our lives. Sometimes this images become messages that we need to decipher. Sometimes this helps us get a better understanding of ourselves. When we lucid dream, we know we are dreaming. We walk about our mind as if its real. We are completely in tune with our mind at that point. Its my belief that this is why we are able to do the things we do in lucid dreams. In our dreams, our mind is in our control. What if we were to work in tune with our mind? Work, and work and work, and discover some way, to unlock the power we have lost? Even if it was just an extra %2. If we were to work with our mind, we may be able to restore it. We would become a more unique people. Some may say a race of our own. We would be the definition of super human. Having more control of our mind would be a wonderous gift. As a mature community, we could use such a gift to benifit the world. Im probably getting a bit ahead of myself when I said those last few words, however, Im just trying to get you all to think of the possibilities. Thoughts? Participants?

[magicrules22311]

no comments, but very good post. -Rob

[sargentpepper882]

no, that is not true we do not use only ten % of our minds, we use more when we need to, and less when we need to. our subconcious uses more "procesing" of our brain than concoius thought, but our brain is nto used to its full capacity. being able to control all of our minds with concious thoguth, or at least more of it as your saying, would not mean super humans. Think of you brain as a computer (whihc it essentailly is). each section of the "harddrive"is partitioned for a certain process/storage. if the harddrive was full, our computer wouldnt be better in any way. what your talking about is more "ram". something to accelerate our brains. If i coudl utilize all fo my brainstem with concous thought, i woudlnt knwo the difference.

[ExoByte]

Hardly. More "RAM" would be the mind having a greater capacy for information. People with down syndrome have "less RAM" for example. Our of our entire brain, we only ever use %10. The such events, such as adrenalin injected into our blood by the brain, are not controlled by us. We have no power over such things. Something like that is controlled by part of the %90 that we dont use. Which is where me belief of the workers who created the Sphinx and Pyramids comes in. If they had the ability, to enhance their bodies at will, whos to say they didnt realize a way to do this safely? If they used enough of their mind to enhance their bodies, they should be using enough of their mind to quickly realize a way to do this with out potentially harming themselves. Take telekenetics, phychics, or other phenomenally exceptional people. Should these people be real, and not acting on illusion, they could be some of the select few left in the world who use more of their mind than others.

[FluBB]

well actually they found that native americans used more like 15 to 20 percent of their brain, so they think that the more you have to think the more you use. or that it is a survival thing, you think harder to survive. but we really cant tell.

[Chaos Psyche]

Your talking about merging the conscious and sub-conscious into one. Jesus himself spoke of this, saying "when you make the two as one.." but the church labeled it heresy, and all out of fear and control. I don't even know how you would go about merging both hemispheres our your brain to act as one coherent whole. I assure you though, if you did it you would be beyond what we know today as a individual. I am deeply fascinated by this. I am sure the "church" has very intriging information from way back in the past that would help, but they are withholding, or have destroyed it. More reason why the shepard of this world needs to be obliterated.

[ExoByte]

Your talking about merging the conscious and sub-conscious into one. Jesus himself spoke of this, saying "when you make the two as one.." but the church labeled it heresy, and all out of fear and control. I don't even know how you would go about merging both hemispheres our your brain to act as one coherent whole. I assure you though, if you did it you would be beyond what we know today as a individual. I am deeply fascinated by this. I am sure the "church" has very intriging information from way back in the past that would help, but they are withholding, or have destroyed it. More reason why the shepard of this world needs to be obliterated. [/b] That is exactly what Im getting at. Jesus may have been one of those individuals who merged his conscious and subconscious mind, allowing for the "miracles" he preformed. However, that has nothing to do with our topic at hand. We'll keep that in religious discussion. The subconscious is the trigger of such chemicals, like adrenalin. It is what makes it work. If you had control of your subconscious mind, you could invoke such an effect at will. As well, you would have be able to have such amazing abilities you would be the definition of "super human." Something like this is probably near impossible. However, should we work together... perhaps we could acheive this goal. Working as a team, together, sharing our experiance, theories, and facts that we gather... what if we were to achieve this goal? We could then pass this knowledge down to the others here, then onto the following generations. It would be a new era. The way I've worded it makes it sound even more improbable than it really is, however, what if my theory is correct? What if we, this community of 7000 dreamers, turned this dream into a reality? It would be historic, unheard of. We know what our subconscious is capable of. We can merge it while we sleep and use such abilities in our dreams. Lets try and take it into the real world.

[Insanebychoice]

That is exactly what Im getting at. Jesus may have been one of those individuals who merged his conscious and subconscious mind, allowing for the "miracles" he preformed. However, that has nothing to do with our topic at hand. We'll keep that in religious discussion. The subconscious is the trigger of such chemicals, like adrenalin. It is what makes it work. If you had control of your subconscious mind, you could invoke such an effect at will. As well, you would have be able to have such amazing abilities you would be the definition of "super human." Something like this is probably near impossible. However, should we work together... perhaps we could acheive this goal. Working as a team, together, sharing our experiance, theories, and facts that we gather... what if we were to achieve this goal? We could then pass this knowledge down to the others here, then onto the following generations. It would be a new era. The way I've worded it makes it sound even more improbable than it really is, however, what if my theory is correct? What if we, this community of 7000 dreamers, turned this dream into a reality? It would be historic, unheard of. We know what our subconscious is capable of. We can merge it while we sleep and use such abilities in our dreams. Lets try and take it into the real world. [/b] I agree with everything you just said. i was thinking more along the lines of a world wide mental internet. 10% of that 90% brain cell might be part of connecting us to it.

[crazyMat]

Our of our entire brain, we only ever use %10. [/b] Nope, thats an urban legend. http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percnt.htm Take telekenetics, phychics, or other phenomenally exceptional people. Should these people be real, and not acting on illusion, they could be some of the select few left in the world who use more of their mind than others. [/b] Or perhaps the people they are tricking use less than others? If there was any decent evidence for any of that stuff, then somebody would have won the million dollar paranormal challenge by now. I don't think adrenaline is as great as you make it out to be. If you want an adrenaline rush, just put yourself in a scary situation? Humanity is constantly degrading. We are becoming lazy, and need to think less. This possibly could be lessening the use of our minds. Only a few decades ago they would do ANY math in their head. Now we have calculators. Before you'd need to walk to get something miles away, now you drive. We are becoming smarter, but also be coming dumber at the same time. Its soon going to come to a point, where we no longer use enough of our mind to come up with creative ideas. At that point, nothing new will be created and we will be at a technological standstill. [/b] Prove it. What reason do you have for believing people were, on average, smarter in the past? So what if a lot of people aren't good at mental arithmetic? They generally have no need to practice it.

[Insanebychoice]

Nope, thats an urban legend. http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percnt.htm Or perhaps the people they are tricking use less than others? If there was any decent evidence for any of that stuff, then somebody would have won the million dollar paranormal challenge by now. I don't think adrenaline is as great as you make it out to be. If you want an adrenaline rush, just put yourself in a scary situation? Prove it. What reason do you have for believing people were, on average, smarter in the past? So what if a lot of people aren't good at mental arithmetic? They generally have no need to practice it. [/b] You give your proofs as absolute truths. Are you really that confident that you are a person who sees what truly is real, and the people you question, that talk about things you don't believe in, are not capable of seeing truth.

[Oneironaut Zero]

Or perhaps the people they are tricking use less than others? If there was any decent evidence for any of that stuff, then somebody would have won the million dollar paranormal challenge by now. [/b] 1) "Decent Evidence" is as subjective as you saying "It's cold outside." 2) You're assuming that A: The Randi Challenge can be won by someone with even a hint of "paranormal" ability. B: Someone with paranormal ability would automatically prefer $1,000,000 over exposing themselves as "freaks" to the rest of the world and possibly spending the rest of their lives being studied. C: the Zammit Challenge (I'd suggest reading the whole eBook it's talking about, as well) being in its 8th year is no reason to believe that the evidence for the afterlife is not easily refuted. 3) Going back to "decent evidence" there may be enough on This thread (pay more attention to the links than all the bantering text, if you wanna) to get you started, as it's probably the best evidence you'll find, around. I'm (as you'll see) not saying that it's all true, without a doubt, but it's enough to, at least, take into consideration.

[ExoByte]

Nope, thats an urban legend. http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percnt.htm [/b] So, let me ask you this? You use %100 of your brain? Do you consciously control how fast your heart beats? When your white blood cells move? When your kidneys and liver act? Can you turn of and on your nervous system? These are just some examples of why we dont use %100 of our minds. Upfront we dont control these things. These things are out of our control. They are done by our subconscious mind. So perhaps the better way to word it... do we really CONTROL %10? Or perhaps the people they are tricking use less than others? If there was any decent evidence for any of that stuff, then somebody would have won the million dollar paranormal challenge by now. [/b] Wether it be Paranormal, or Scientific, these people exist. Its like religion, you just have to have a little faith. Wether you believe in them or not is your own choice, but out of the countless reports that people have made on the subject, you cannot say that all of them are liars. I don't think adrenaline is as great as you make it out to be. If you want an adrenaline rush, just put yourself in a scary situation? [/b] Clearly you've never had an adrenalin rush. Let me tell you a little story that happened to my dad. Back when he was a kid, would work in the fields with 3 others, picking up rocks and boulders to clean it up. They would throw the rocks onto a trailer and then once finished, hop on with the pile of rocks and head back. This trailer was already heavy enough as it is. Now there was over 100tonnes of rocks on top of it, not to mention 4 other teenage kids. One of the kids fell off the trailer and rolled under it. The wheel was about to run over him. He wouldnt of survived. Another of the kids, about 15, and not the most muscular, jumped off the trailer and lifted the back wheels up with ease, and placed them safely on the other side of the kid, and hopped back on. This trailer weighed over 100tonnes. The trailer it self was heavy, pilled with over 100tonnes of rocks, and then 2 other people. You dont think that is great? Besides, I just used adrenalin as an example, as one of the many possibilities. Prove it. What reason do you have for believing people were, on average, smarter in the past? So what if a lot of people aren't good at mental arithmetic? They generally have no need to practice it.[/b] Exactly my point. We no longer need to use our minds as much as they did in the past. People are becoming lazy, and letting technology do their thinking for them. We no longer need to think. In wars in the middle ages, you'd have to strategically think on what your enemy was going to do next. You'd have to completely analyze every, single aspect of your situation and deal with it. You'd have to personally be there to aim a catapult or ballista. Now what do we do? We push a couple buttons on a computer and then hit the little red one and watch the missile go boom. Besides, yet again you are taking ONE example that I made and thinking its the only example.

[♥Mark]

So, let me ask you this? You use %100 of your brain? Do you consciously control how fast your heart beats? When your white blood cells move? When your kidneys and liver act? Can you turn of and on your nervous system? These are just some examples of why we dont use %100 of our minds. Upfront we dont control these things. These things are out of our control. They are done by our subconscious mind. So perhaps the better way to word it... do we really CONTROL %10? [/b] You're making it sound like there's a little man working inside the engine room in my head who's making the decision on when to throw in another shovel full of coal. The fact is that I am controlling all that stuff from my brain. Just not consciously so. These things aren't being controlled by some mysterious outside force. Those examples do nothing to demonstrate that all or most of the brain is not used. 100% of the parts of the brain that are used are controlled by the brain. Consciously so, however, would be another issue.

[ExoByte]

So, let me ask you this? You use %100 of your brain? Do you consciously control how fast your heart beats? When your white blood cells move? When your kidneys and liver act? Can you turn of and on your nervous system? These are just some examples of why we dont use %100 of our minds. Upfront we dont control these things. These things are out of our control. They are done by our subconscious mind. So perhaps the better way to word it... do we really CONTROL %10? [/b] You're making it sound like there's a little man working inside the engine room in my head who's making the decision on when to throw in another shovel full of coal. The fact is that I am controlling all that stuff from my brain. Just not consciously so. These things aren't being controlled by some mysterious outside force. Those examples do nothing to demonstrate that all or most of the brain is not used. 100% of the parts of the brain that are used are controlled by the brain. Consciously so, however, would be another issue. [/b] Read carefully my friend. I meant the control in terms of our conscious/subconscious mind.

[Nikolaa]

Something like this is probably near impossible. However, should we work together... perhaps we could acheive this goal. Working as a team, together, sharing our experiance, theories, and facts that we gather... what if we were to achieve this goal? We could then pass this knowledge down to the others here, then onto the following generations. It would be a new era. [/b] i know alot,i want to tell,but the problem is that nobody will listen,it wloud be nice to have a "partner" here,whit who i cloud do experiments...

[ExoByte]

Drop me a PM. Its doubtful I'll be able to help much with my own project though. Im kinda depending on the community. Problem is I havnt successfully had an LD yet. Anyway, still. Drop me a PM. I'd love to hear what you have to say.

[♥Mark]

You're making it sound like there's a little man working inside the engine room in my head who's making the decision on when to throw in another shovel full of coal. The fact is that I am controlling all that stuff from my brain. Just not consciously so. These things aren't being controlled by some mysterious outside force. Those examples do nothing to demonstrate that all or most of the brain is not used. 100% of the parts of the brain that are used are controlled by the brain. Consciously so, however, would be another issue. Read carefully my friend. I meant the control in terms of our conscious/subconscious mind. [/b] Read carefully, my friend; I acknowledged that.

[Insanebychoice]

Read carefully, my friend; I acknowledged that. [/b] You know Marky, there are thousands of people like you that are oh so ready to dump on people that discuss issues such as these. If you don't want to seriously look at the possibilities of these sciences (because they have not been proved or disproved (which makes them even funner to discuss)) why the hell are you here. Or are you one of thoose classic scientists you really needs people to be like them so their not so lonely and different?

[♥Mark]

You know Marky, there are thousands of people like you that are oh so ready to dump on people that discuss issues such as these. If you don't want to seriously look at the possibilities of these sciences (because they have not been proved or disproved (which makes them even funner to discuss)) why the hell are you here. Or are you one of thoose classic scientists you really needs people to be like them so their not so lonely and different? [/b] You know, there are thousands of people like you that are oh-so-ready to dump on people when they start calling BS when they see BS. If you don't want to seriously consider that this is all a heap of nonsense, then you're the one that's being unscientific. Which leads me to my question, why are you here? This isn't the first time I've been asked that question, either. Don't you people get it? This is a forum. We discuss stuff. If the stuff you're discussing turns out to be BS, expect that people will make a note of that. I'm seriously getting sick of hearing that line. As though I'm expected to leave just because I don't buy into the same nonsense you do. Apparently your definition of a "discussion" is everyone coming and posting about how they agree with you. If I'm wrong, then show me to be wrong. Until then, quit whining that I'm not complacent to sit in my chair and mindlessly shake my head in agreement with everything everyone posts in some vein attempt to be viewed as open minded without actually taking the effort to be so.

[Insanebychoice]

You know, there are thousands of people like you that are oh-so-ready to dump on people when they start calling BS when they see BS. If you don't want to seriously consider that this is all a heap of nonsense, then you're the one that's being unscientific. Which leads me to my question, why are you here? This isn't the first time I've been asked that question, either. Don't you people get it? This is a forum. We discuss stuff. If the stuff you're discussing turns out to be BS, expect that people will make a note of that. I'm seriously getting sick of hearing that line. As though I'm expected to leave just because I don't buy into the same nonsense you do. Apparently your definition of a "discussion" is everyone coming and posting about how they agree with you. If I'm wrong, then show me to be wrong. Until then, quit whining that I'm not complacent to sit in my chair and mindlessly shake my head in agreement with everything everyone posts in some vein attempt to be viewed as open minded without actually taking the effort to be so. [/b] So what's your problem then? Why do you denouce everything that is discussed on this alternative stlye website. It seems you hate people who explore this science.

[♥Mark]

So what's your problem then? [/b] Don't you people get it? This is a forum. We discuss stuff. If the stuff you're discussing turns out to be BS, expect that people will make a note of that. I'm seriously getting sick of hearing that line. As though I'm expected to leave just because I don't buy into the same nonsense you do. Apparently your definition of a "discussion" is everyone coming and posting about how they agree with you. [/b] P.S. I hadn't read the initial post until just now. Initially I just skimmed over the thread until a particular part caught my eye. However, I still stand by my statments.

[ExoByte]

Technically, this is partially scientific. Our mind is divided into Conscious and Subconscious, and merging them would be a huge step foreward scientifically. There is nothing really paranormal about it. Hardly a "Heap of Nonsense" when all it is, is a theory. As well, you speak of them not being open minded, yet dont even consider this as a possibility yourself. Of course your opinions and thoughts are respected, and any thoughts that relate to this are appreciated, wether they are for, or against it.

[TweaK]

The 10% is a myth. Also, the %-character goes after the amount.

[♥Mark]

Hardly a "Heap of Nonsense" when all it is, is a theory. As well, you speak of them not being open minded, yet dont even consider this as a possibility yourself. [/b] Actually, I have to consider that it's a possibility. Of course it's a possibility. If you re-read what I said, you'll notice that I never specifically called the idea nonsense. But yes, this theory could be just that. The purpose of my initial post was to clarify that the mind controls itself. The post I was responding to was "So, let me ask you this? You use %100 of your brain? Do you consciously control ... These are just some examples of why we don't use %100 of our minds." I responded by saying that this did nothing to show that we don't use 100% of our minds, because these functions are all controlled by the mind. In retrospect, it seems like ExoByte meant that we don't consciously use 100% of our minds, but it was still worthy of mentioning that these functions were all controlled by the mind (because some people wouldn't have figured it out on their own).

[ExoByte]

Well of course all of our mind is used. Perhaps I should've worded it better and made it more clear. Sorry for the misunderstanding. That was my fault. But now that that is cleared up, the percentage of conscious isn't really the topic. What I was getting at is the merging of the two parts of the mind, making the subconscious under conscious control.