Thread: Anyone else met the Night Stalkers and Dream Walkers?

yeah...
i didnt get visited either...
But give them time....
Also....my challenge is still open.

"But give them tiiiiiiiiiiiiiime" you say....Bah! I'm impatient!!!

Come on Stalkers! Walkers!
I'm inviting you just like The Cusp did!
You showed him you were real!
Now show me!

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

Dude, when you say the eye detects lights, you also mean the rods and the cones, and not the whole eye. Just like when I say detection happens through resonance, I don't mean the whole eye together with the eyelids and the eyebrows resonates and vibrates along with light.. lol please. I just try to keep it simple. Light detection happens through resonance. This is a fact. No point in arguing about science, science is science, you can't change it. If you want to know wether I'm "lying" or telling the truth, do some research. I know you're too lazy to do so, so I did it for you. But you still go and argue about.. what? You do realize, in order to argue, you actually need to bring up some arguments. And "no", "wrong", and "bullshit" aren't arguments.

We completely agree that light detection happens through resonance, first you said BULLSHIT, and now you say.. what? You forgot to get to the point.

I have no idea anymore what you claim tbh, first you say one thing, and then you go and claim the complete opposite. You have lost your point and got stuck in arguing about your ego.

You're not worth talking to.
You claim I am changing my stance when you twist my words.
I know exactly what I'm talking about because I've studied the absorption of light by atoms and molecules intensively, maybe you don't understand it but that's ok.
Now I'm going to let this topic run its due course.

Fable, i bet no one is entering your dreams because they are afraid of upsetting spherecat and unleashing his wrath.

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

blah blah blah resonance

Basic rundown on how the human eye works.

Actually, nothing in your eye resonates. Of the roughly 5 million cones and nearly 100 million rods, they are stimulated by light. Cones deal in black and white (brightness), to form shadow, width, length, depth, night vision, ect. Rods deal in color. Of the three rods there are long, medium and short, dealing in yellow, green, and violet. Stimulation for the color blue for example would be when a photon of light hits the eye in such a way as to stimulate enough of violet, and enough of yellow, but not too much of either.

The main thing in them is the pigmented photoreceptor proteins. Rhodopsin (rods) and iodopsin (cones) are released when light stimulates the cones and rods after being focused through the retina, the proteins and ions released are stimulated in the optic centers of the brain, allowing you to see. Loss of cones causes blindess, as you cannot distinguish brightness, and loss of rods leads to night blindness. Color blindness is caused by brain/nerve damage.

The eye actually processes images in an upside down/reversed fashion, and everything in your field of vision is actually a series of images all about the size of a standard postage stamp. Your brain pieces everything together like a large puzzle. This is how you are able to have blind spots in your vision, or little optical illusions that make you miss seeing colors if you focus on a central black dot, or the gray lines, ect.

p.s. still no Nightstalkers... once again someones fantasies and need for control and betterment of their ego through exaggeration lead to random crap on the interwebs.

eye sight is odd tho, the younger you were the worse the detail in the images get

you cant remember the images from eye sight without having differentiated between all the "seperate" objects

at birth, there was only existence, then you start to give labels to "seperate" objects. "Seperate" is wierd coz seperation can go on infinitely, so can combining, so you can see something as a whole image or see something as a combination of seperate objects, so you can go in infinite detail by seperating objects and making the picture sharper/clearer but you go out of focus and start to lose sight of the "whole". You can combine everything and get a more accurate picture but you start to lose the sight itself since you have no objective reference points without labels,

if you dont have a label for something, it doesnt stand out in the image/sight, almost doesnt exist since memory seems to work by combining two senses, like a word(sound) and image, touch and image, taste and image, whatever

so in this sense, "resonance" sort of works, you have to "tune" into the frequency of the particular object in order to "see" it, but you can "see" the same thing in infinite number of ways so anway... i think this is what most people mean by "resonance" in relation to eye sight, not the sight itself but the combination of another sense (this one being the one you can tune, usually changing the combination of sounds/words) with the sight to alter perception

like... if your mind state is happy(so now we are tuned into the happy frequency, which will be different for everyone since all words are subjective), anything you associate with the word happy will stand out (or resonate) more in your eye sight, thus altering perception, not necessarily that you are actually happier but picking up what you visually percieve to be happiness i guess...

I liked your post until...

Originally Posted by Keiju

so in this sense, "resonance" sort of works, you have to "tune" into the frequency of the particular object in order to "see" it, but you can "see" the same thing in infinite number of ways so anway... i think this is what most people mean by "resonance" in relation to eye sight, not the sight itself but the combination of another sense (this one being the one you can tune, usually changing the combination of sounds/words) with the sight to alter perception

It doesn't work, there are no frequencies to tune into. It is part of the image that you are focusing on.
Also there is no such thing as a "happy" or "sad" frequency, people do not vibrate. I'm sorry to break that to you. I can provide further explanation if you wish.

happy or sad is a frequency in itself, not talking about vibrations or whatever, just using frequency to represent the infinite variations of sounds.. which are words, and so changing this frequency changes perception, the "focusing" is the tuning into a frequency, whatever your focusing on is a state of mind, the different states of mind... i like to use the word frequency to represent

the sight itself is not changing, it is always the same, only perception changes

like peoples idea of the universe/existence, it has/is/will always be the same, but peoples perception always changes it and so it also seems to change visually, change of frequency, my definitions/models anyway

this idea gives rise to the infinite possibility and "create your own universe" sort of thing, which is sort of true, but needs some sort of balance between objective and subjective

It's not a frequency. A frequency is a measure of the number of times something happens over a specific period of time. Thus, no emotion is a frequency.

hm whatever, i just defined what i meant by frequency, your definition makes no difference to my models, but at least we know what we both mean by frequency anyway

words only make sense within its own context, im sure you can see this, but yes you are correct frequency in its classical definition does not make sense in my post.... i never meant for it to though

the problem is words need to mean the same thing for both parties in order for communication to work

And within the context of that conversation, frequency had the pre-defined meaning that I explained to you.

yes or we can define what we mean by them,

like in maths we say x = ?, same with words

but i suppose this is the problem, noone is defining their words before use

but still...to say there are pre-defined meanings in words is a bit off, will make it very hard since the simplest of words are still subjective on a large scale,

rather you should of said, "what do you mean by frequency" , i think anyway

what this entire thread is about is the same as the movies night watch and day watch except for the fact that they need to go to sleep to enter the altered reality they can just enter it when ever...check it out its not bad at all its in Russian though and have awesome cgi.

Could the people bickering about eyeballs please start their own thread

Originally Posted by lucid4sho

Could the people bickering about eyeballs please start their own thread

How about the ones bickering about ignorance?

Originally Posted by adam has a dream

How about the ones bickering about ignorance?

Anyone crowding the thread with unrelated topics

Awesome
Sorry for being a smartass there, I was a little fed up with people talking shit...
Incidentally, do you have any ideas on the mechanism of dreamwalking?

Not really. But from my observations the transference of vibes and emotions is something many people experience, and there is no scientific instrument which can measure this. Have you ever felt someones emotion without looking at or speaking with them? Or sensed someones intentions without any physical signs at all. It seems some form of currently undetectable energy is transfered between humans all the time. I think lots of people will attest to this. This energy could contain more information then we can normally perceive, maybe this his how genuine psychics function, they can translate more information out of the energy than most. Assuming these energies exist, theres a chance they are the same mechanisms that can connect people while they are dreaming. Who knows really, but thats my guess

I think I have
It reminds me of pheremones - the natural scent of a person that we only detect subconsciously. These apparently make up part of our attraction to other people.
I would also go so far as to say entangled particles might play a role, seeing as a change in one particle causes an immediate change in the other, no matter what the distance. That would obviously be a good way to transmit information.

so the dreamwalkers, could they be able to help you to get better at becoming lucid? that would be so awesome & helpful! if thats possible, they are more than welcome to enter my dreams!!!

New studies suggest it's hard to retain memories from when you are very young because your brain hasn't learned to process and label everything yet and thusly is unable to identify and recall it as well as when you get older. Things you're with often, parents, your childhood blankey or teddy bear whatever, bring back memories better because of your time spent learning about them. The smells, touch, what they look like, sound like, taste.

Originally Posted by Croneus

New studies suggest it's hard to retain memories from when you are very young because your brain hasn't learned to process and label everything yet and thusly is unable to identify and recall it as well as when you get older. Things you're with often, parents, your childhood blankey or teddy bear whatever, bring back memories better because of your time spent learning about them. The smells, touch, what they look like, sound like, taste.

It may also be due to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apoptosis .

In early childhood many kids have what some may call photographic memory, but it doesn't stay with them into adulthood because of apoptosis in the brain.