Thread: Anyone else met the Night Stalkers and Dream Walkers?

i just want to challenge any NS out there. IF there are then prove it to me tonight! maybe this isn't the best way to become lucid lol, but i believe i can take any of you stupid enough to enter my dreams. i don't really believe in this btw although i think it's an interesting read. so prove it, and bring it on!!!

1. So, there is no known way to definitively differentiate between DCs and NS/DWs, though with experience one may be able to tell the difference.
2. I meant multiple times, not consistently. That was an error in my phrasing. But, basically, it is unlikely one would meet several different NS/DWs unintentionally, unless one happened to be aa sort of nexus for such beings?
3. I'm currently in a slightly more cynical mood than usual (by baseline cynicism being one of the reasons I made the avatar, thanks anomanderis), so I can;t bring myself to assume that even one of you is telling the truth, but if you are, which is not an impossible, or even, based on other evidence, improbable, event, then the occurence of shared dreams, and thus people who can share dreams and convince themselves that they are Night stalkers or dream walkers, can and most likely do exist.

SO, thank you, this has been interesting. I hope I can learn more about this and other phenomenae by joining in conversations on this thread and forum.

Edit: PS: At any night stalkers out there: I would appreciate if you did not attempt to "fight me in a dream," I'm not stupuid enough to challenge someone that weiother doesn;t exist or can challenge me at any time on his "home turf," though I would appreciate if any dream walkers theoretically happened to decide that their good deed for the day would be to assist me in my efforts to better understand or utilize lucid dreams.

If you want to know if something in you dream is NS while you are lucid, you could always try Castaneda's energy seeing in dreams trick.

The theory is that everything that is real has some sort of energy to it. Dream elements, being not real, have no energy behind them. So by trying to see something or someone's energy, you should at least be able to tell if it just a dream or something else.

In the books he suggests pointing your little finger at your target and declaring your intent to see it's energy as the proper method to achieve this goal.

I've tried it several time and have yet to see energy in a dream. But it does have the side effect of making things without energy disappear into mist. Happens consistently for me and also others who I've gotten to try it. Like any dream skill, sometimes it doesn't work right away, but keep trying it and it will eventually. Focus on the goal rather than the method (but the pointing with the pinky does seem to help.)

If someone wants to try that, I really want to hear what happened when you do.


The real way they stand out that they are really good at dreaming. If you can enter people's dreams, you obviously have some skills. Seeing them in action compared regular DCs is the difference between watching PeeWee league sports versus the professional leagues.

Originally Posted by JET73L

Edit: PS: At any night stalkers out there: I would appreciate if you did not attempt to "fight me in a dream," I'm not stupuid enough to challenge someone that weiother doesn;t exist or can challenge me at any time on his "home turf," though I would appreciate if any dream walkers theoretically happened to decide that their good deed for the day would be to assist me in my efforts to better understand or utilize lucid dreams.

you calling me stupid? lol (jk)
i just really want to see if it's real or not, and i think it's worth the "side effects" of a few nightmares to challenge the supposed NS. i believe in my powers in my own dream, and it's actually MY "home turf" they're dealing with.

p.s. i don't think telling them not to fight you will help btw, since they are supposed to be bad guys anyway. if anything they would rather hunt you down since you are unwilling to fight, thus making it easier to torment you.

hey I saw somethin like this on arthur, I Mean, not arthur, why would I watch arthur but anyways he realizes hes dreaming and he goes into everyone elses dreams and messes them up its funny

lmao, i use to watch arthur as a kid. i think you meant spongebob btw, i remember watching that episode with my little cousins.

Don't fear just dream your heart out

I would like to ask,
Has anyone ever actually encountered a NS before they had ever heard of them or read about them? Cause this all sounds like something your subconscious would pull up once it knows about it.

Cheers

Originally Posted by JET73L

1. So, there is no known way to definitively differentiate between DCs and NS/DWs, though with experience one may be able to tell the difference.
2. I meant multiple times, not consistently. That was an error in my phrasing. But, basically, it is unlikely one would meet several different NS/DWs unintentionally, unless one happened to be aa sort of nexus for such beings?
3. I'm currently in a slightly more cynical mood than usual (by baseline cynicism being one of the reasons I made the avatar, thanks anomanderis), so I can;t bring myself to assume that even one of you is telling the truth, but if you are, which is not an impossible, or even, based on other evidence, improbable, event, then the occurence of shared dreams, and thus people who can share dreams and convince themselves that they are Night stalkers or dream walkers, can and most likely do exist.

SO, thank you, this has been interesting. I hope I can learn more about this and other phenomenae by joining in conversations on this thread and forum.

1) There is, just that most of us (including me) are still too inexperienced to be able to tell the difference. The energy seeing method The Cusp pointed out should be useful.
2)Extremely unlikely, I would say, but since I have no clue about how dream mechanics actually work, standard logic has a high probability of erring concerning this bit.
3) Believing in something without at least some proof is lunacy. That's why I've said before that although I do believe that such beings exist, because if dream sharing is real (of which I have no real proof, but cases seem to imply that it is) then logically i see no reason why DWs/NSs shouldn't exist, without definitive first-hand experience i will never believe it 100%.
All in all, i'd say their existence is migthy probable.


I've had 1 or 2 (not more) dreams where I'm pretty sure I had energy vision. Assuming that I can only see the energy of non-DCs, then they were probably just dreams where I thought I had energy vision.
The fact that I asked one of my friends who had been in this dream, where I saw his abdominal Dan Tien (energy storage center below the navel) being drained by something, and he didn't recall anything of the like would seem to indicate just a regular dream.

Originally Posted by Mr_Jinsue

I would like to ask,
Has anyone ever actually encountered a NS before they had ever heard of them or read about them? Cause this all sounds like something your subconscious would pull up once it knows about it.

Cheers

maybe. first time ive ever heard about them was 2 minuets ago in this thread. heres a dream i had last week that i posted in another forum.

"im in full control of my dreams when they are lucid to the point where i can make a building shoot up from the ground, demolish it with a stare, jet off into outerspace like superman you name it. i love it its fun. recently i met a vampire in a dream who i could not control. he wanted to fight me and me being a geordie was like 'come on then'. i summoned my deepest rage but before i had a chance to do anything he slit my throat and flew away. blood was gushing but i wasnt worried because i knew it was a dream. i felt disappointed because until then i had always had control* of my dreams. i was so disappointed that i woke myself up on purpose like a stropy child.

*except one time when a giant hand picked me up by the back of my pants and swang me round as if to show me i wasnt really in control but it was a friendly presence."

im going to think on this a bit and wait for my next experience with it before i draw up any conclusions.

I still don't see how internet requests would do anything... there are billions of humans in Earth and I don't think someone is willing to give their real adress just for something that may be fake <.<
And... isn't technically knowing that NS/DW have energy will make your mind create a DC with "energy"? Oh and the first time I had a SD was some months ago after knowing that you could control dreams.

Originally Posted by Walms

I still don't see how internet requests would do anything... there are billions of humans in Earth and I don't think someone is willing to give their real adress just for something that may be fake <.<
And... isn't technically knowing that NS/DW have energy will make your mind create a DC with "energy"? Oh and the first time I had a SD was some months ago after knowing that you could control dreams.

Everything associated with you has your energy linked to it. This also applies to online nicknames.

Originally Posted by anomanderis

Everything associated with you has your energy linked to it. This also applies to online nicknames.

so basically, they sense the energy from our online nicknames, and somehow use that to locate us? i didn't have any real nightmares last night btw, just that a miniature dinosaur kept trying to bite me when i tried to go upstairs, and i managed to go upstairs anyway lol. if that's the best they can do then they should quit their night jobs.


MY CHALLENGE IS STILL UP!!!

Originally Posted by ForgottenDream

so basically, they sense the energy from our online nicknames, and somehow use that to locate us?

Im saying that's one possible way of doing it.

But that energy would do barely anything, because the connections use energy and it would mix with your own, then there is the energy of other people using the internet, and the energy of the places from where it pass, tough if they can follow that vague and low energy, I would be extremly impressed.

I would think you could get to know someone pretty well just by reading their posts. Even more so if they keep an active DJ.

Some guy burgled my house, and threatened me. I am inclined to believe that he may be part of the "Night Stalkers", because his name was Steve, and he acted in a naughty way in my opinion.

Therefore, his initials are NS (naughty, Steve) for Night Stalker, so he must be part of the Night Stalkers; peculiar.

Originally Posted by Walms

But that energy would do barely anything, because the connections use energy and it would mix with your own, then there is the energy of other people using the internet, and the energy of the places her from where it pass, tough if they can follow that vague and low energy, I would be extremly impressed.

Take remote viweing for example (if you believe in it, of course). That can be done solely by knowing the online nickname. Even though there might be hundreds of same nicknames elsewhere, the NS would know the forum which has the unique nickname and thus can zero-in on his/her target by just willing it. (Assuming they have that skill)

I have dremt about being stalked in my dreams and hunted. I have also dreamed that I meet people or events in my life take place else where.

Oh I forgot the mind/speed view of things "hits self" Tough I still ocnsider remote viewing and DW different things lol Then again... I has got... nothing out of common... and I really want to meet someone whos that strong on dreams <.<

Back from Hell, Shiloh Walker, a book about "night stalkers". Moonstone comics has comics about night stalkers....coincidence? Is that where they get their name from?

This whole thread has intrigued me, true or not, its interesting!

Originally Posted by Sandform

Lol its not possible...its just fantasy.

Honestly, think about it...if ANY of the stuff you hear about subjects like this were real...there would be hardcore evidence, and it would be BIG FUCKING NEWS, it would be on every news story for the rest of existence, but the fact is...it isn't real. There is no evidence for any of it...and if there were, well this is the 21st century...it would be all over the news, on every continent...there would probably even be classes specifically for it incorporated into upper and low school systems...

Conspiracy!! Maybe the people who can do this also are the 10 or 12 guys that run the entire world.

Originally Posted by cornflakegirl3301

Conspiracy!! Maybe the people who can do this also are the 10 or 12 guys that run the entire world.

... Dick Cheney is a night stalker?!

Yeah, I'm not a hundred-percent sure that they're real, but I have one dream in particular that yells "night-stalker" at me.

It started out as a nightmare. I had watched all three Spider-man movies the night before, and I dreamt I was still in 7th grade, that there were four villains from the Spider-man comics and movies running around, destroying what seemed to be a combination of my town and New York city. I'm hiding under the auditorium with my friends, as Venom is trying to claw his way down and eat us. We were freaking out, and the thought crossed my mind "Oh man, this is worse than in Spider-man 3!" Then I thought "Wait... that was a movie! This can't be happening!" And I became lucid. I decided "If my DCs can be Venom... why can't I be Spider-man?" And like that, I was wearing the Black Suit. Payback-butter jelly time!

After turning Venom to a pile of goo, I start swinging around the city, and run across New Goblin and Doc Ock attacking the police. Doc Ock shoots his tentacles at me, but I web them to the wall, and he's stuck. One kick later, and he's down. I jump on New Goblin's hoverboard, and it pretty much just turns into a God-of-War esque combo smashdown, resulting in New Goblin falling to his death.

Here's where what I believe was a Night-stalker comes in. While I'm still on the hoverboard, I'm tackled by something, and we both hit the ground, hard. I look up, and see another Spider-man, except his suit is different, almost like it's on fire from the pattern. I ask him his name, but he just shakes his finger at me. (That's the weird part, because whether it be English, Spanish, or one of the 12,506.2 varieties of Gibberish, my DCs always talk.) I started calling him the Anti-Spider, because for one, Spider-man always talks, this guy is silent, and two, I'M THE ONLY SPIDEY IN THIS TOWN, BUB!

We start throwing punches, and I'm a little disturbed to find out he's just as powerful as I am. I increase my power, he increases with me. I tried to shoot web at him, he shoots flaming web at me. (Not fun ) I start climbing higher, he follows. Eventually, we're swinging around on top of the Empire State building. I jump at him, he jumps at me, we collide in the air and start falling, still throwing the occasional punch. Neither of us can seem to swing away, and when we finally hit the ground, I woke up. It was weird for a lot of reasons. Was this a Night-stalker, or just an unusually stubborn DC?... or Marvel, in this case. (Bad jokes FTW!

Originally Posted by CJ1145

... Dick Cheney is a night stalker?!

Yeah, I'm not a hundred-percent sure that they're real, but I have one dream in particular that yells "night-stalker" at me.

It started out as a nightmare. I had watched all three Spider-man movies the night before, and I dreamt I was still in 7th grade, that there were four villains from the Spider-man comics and movies running around, destroying what seemed to be a combination of my town and New York city. I'm hiding under the auditorium with my friends, as Venom is trying to claw his way down and eat us. We were freaking out, and the thought crossed my mind "Oh man, this is worse than in Spider-man 3!" Then I thought "Wait... that was a movie! This can't be happening!" And I became lucid. I decided "If my DCs can be Venom... why can't I be Spider-man?" And like that, I was wearing the Black Suit. Payback-butter jelly time!

After turning Venom to a pile of goo, I start swinging around the city, and run across New Goblin and Doc Ock attacking the police. Doc Ock shoots his tentacles at me, but I web them to the wall, and he's stuck. One kick later, and he's down. I jump on New Goblin's hoverboard, and it pretty much just turns into a God-of-War esque combo smashdown, resulting in New Goblin falling to his death.

Here's where what I believe was a Night-stalker comes in. While I'm still on the hoverboard, I'm tackled by something, and we both hit the ground, hard. I look up, and see another Spider-man, except his suit is different, almost like it's on fire from the pattern. I ask him his name, but he just shakes his finger at me. (That's the weird part, because whether it be English, Spanish, or one of the 12,506.2 varieties of Gibberish, my DCs always talk.) I started calling him the Anti-Spider, because for one, Spider-man always talks, this guy is silent, and two, I'M THE ONLY SPIDEY IN THIS TOWN, BUB!

We start throwing punches, and I'm a little disturbed to find out he's just as powerful as I am. I increase my power, he increases with me. I tried to shoot web at him, he shoots flaming web at me. (Not fun ) I start climbing higher, he follows. Eventually, we're swinging around on top of the Empire State building. I jump at him, he jumps at me, we collide in the air and start falling, still throwing the occasional punch. Neither of us can seem to swing away, and when we finally hit the ground, I woke up. It was weird for a lot of reasons. Was this a Night-stalker, or just an unusually stubborn DC?... or Marvel, in this case. (Bad jokes FTW!

Wow, sounds like an incredible rush of a dream. My LDCs are always talking too except when they appear in SP.

The funny thing is we can never now for sure if our DCs and LDCs are anything more than our own creations. But if they are merely creations, then its quite a power indeed that the brain has and is still pretty inexplicable to current scientific theory.