Thread: Universal Awareness

Originally Posted by awakened_mind

well, theres many exraction techniques on google (which most are bump) and the easyist way to obtain smokable form is to do one of these extractions. You can also freebase some DMT. there are techniques to freebase it too, which i'm not familiar with, but is the easyist part of a freebase smokable form of DMT extract. Without freebase, its easy to fuck up on smoking the substance, but there are special DMT pipes and what not. Non-freebase DMT must be inhaled as vapors.

I would ask Wer about this, he's been working on it for about a year.

May I just ask why the fuck the moderators and administrators even allow this kind of talk on DreamViews. We aren't your damn drug dealers.

Originally Posted by Oneironaught

May I just ask why the fuck the moderators and administrators even allow this kind of talk on DreamViews. We aren't your damn drug dealers.

Nobody has solicited or negotiated a deal. The exchanges have been about information/education, so no laws have been broken. DMT is in fact a drug that very much relates to lucid dreaming and the "beyond dreaming" subject area in general. That is a fact. It is an interesting issue to discuss in a forum about mind alteration, especially lucid dreaming. Salvia divinorum is found in nature, and it is legal in the United States. Unlike your previous assertion, we are not talking about anything synthetic. DMT is a naturally occurring compound in plants and animals, you included. And don't forget that we are talking about a drug you yourself do every single time you dream. It is in your body at this very moment. This web site is about lucid dreaming, and lucid dreams are DMT trips, literally, as are all dreams.

You know what? Do whatever you want. I just find it funny that DreamViews is so willing to allow so many threads where members openly and freely discuss illegal activities. Especially given the fact that so many members are minors, I personally don't feel this is the place for the promotion of hard drug use but, whatever. You'd think that would be frowned upon but I guess I expect too much from people.

Oh well, enjoy your discussion. I'll be elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Oneironaught

You know what? Do whatever you want. I just find it funny that DreamViews is so willing to allow so many threads where members openly and freely discuss illegal activities. Especially given the fact that so many members are minors, I personally don't feel this is the place for the promotion of hard drug use but, whatever. You'd think that would be frowned upon but I guess I expect too much from people.

Oh well, enjoy your discussion. I'll be elsewhere.

I have said that I am not encouraging it, and I explained the major warnings (which don't include death or addiction, by the way). Also, I and others have said in this very thread that people should research DMT to the bone before ever doing it, which I have never done. Furthermore, I think the DMT experience with the most potential is R.E.M. lucid dreaming. This is relevant lucid dream science.

Originally Posted by Oneironaught

You know what? Do whatever you want. I just find it funny that DreamViews is so willing to allow so many threads where members openly and freely discuss illegal activities. Especially given the fact that so many members are minors, I personally don't feel this is the place for the promotion of hard drug use but, whatever. You'd think that would be frowned upon but I guess I expect too much from people.

Oh well, enjoy your discussion. I'll be elsewhere.

If you dont care what we do, then why the hell did you post this. dreaming releases a chemical on your brain just as much as any other drug, so don't bitch about what we do, because i'm sure half of the people who created this web page used drugs them selves for SPIRITUAL reasons, just like everyone on this thread, except for you, obviously.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

I have said that I am not encouraging it...

And singing praises from the rooftop isn't encouragement? Oooooookay, good to know

And it's not just this thread. There's plenty of praises being sung about various drugs on this site.

Originally Posted by Oneironaught

You know what? Do whatever you want. I just find it funny that DreamViews is so willing to allow so many threads where members openly and freely discuss illegal activities. Especially given the fact that so many members are minors, I personally don't feel this is the place for the promotion of hard drug use but, whatever. You'd think that would be frowned upon but I guess I expect too much from people.

Oh well, enjoy your discussion. I'll be elsewhere.

I think the majority of the DV Community is smart enough to know that certain laws are wrong, as they outlaw many of our god-given rights. Also, I believe we're LEGALLY allowed to talk about whatever we wish... freedom of speech, remember?

What is your perspective of what "hard drugs" are? You do know that its basically impossible to overdose on the drugs being mentioned here? Its also very difficult to become addicted to any of these subtances, as their effects are far to powerful to become a recreational drug in the truest sense. Hard drugs, or at least in my opinion, are drugs which are very addictive and physically dangerous. DMT and most other psychedelics are NOT these kind of drugs. I think Universal Mind has said everything else that there is to be said.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Just out of curiosity, where can the smokable extract be found? I have never met anybody who has the slightest idea on that. Most people don't even know what the Hell DMT is. Would it be something that could be found by asking around in certain parts of San Francisco or Eugene, Oregon? Or maybe the hippy nomads at Widespread Panic concerts would know of access routes? The smokable extract causes a ten minute trip, while the drinkable ayahuasca causes a trip that lasts four to eight hours. I have no idea how people find the smokable extract. And the chemical process for making it is so long and confusing it's laughable to non-chemists.

The smokable extract is very hard to find now in days, so if you want to smoke it, the best way to do this is to extract it yourself. There are MANY great extraction techniques out there, just google 'dmt extraction technique'.
Most require that you use Mimosa Wood Bark, specifically the ones that only require you to basify and skip defatting (the process that cleans the DMT from the fatty oils of the plant). Mimosa has very little fat in it, so its the only plant you can use with these techniques. If you want to use a different material, then you want to do an Acid/Base technique. The process is very simple, and you can easily come out with a batch of very pure DMT. Just make sure you fallow the directions correctly. You can purchase these plants at Psychoactive Herbs. The owners on vacation so you'll have to wait a couple weeks.

Originally Posted by awakened_mind

There is nothing, and i mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, that is even somewhat related to DMT. No other drug is anywhere near as powerful and mind altering. If anyone plans on attempting this shit, take a long LONG sit (at least a month) and research the drug and experiences that people have had, This is not a drug you do for fun.

http://erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_DMT.shtml

Thanks. I don't wanna be a drug addict or anything, hell the only drug i've ever done is weed and that was last week for the first time in my life just to try it out, and i'm almost 23. I know what drugs do to people and i dont plan on doing them, my mom is a hardcore drug addict, and alcoholic, and has HIV etc so i stay far far back from drugs. I just wanted to see what it was like, and by how this sounds and from what i've heard from other people who aren't drug addicts and stuff i wanna try DMT. I know you have trips with other drugs but it's nothing special to ruin your brain over, but DMT sounds like an expierence of a lifetime. Try it once and that will be all. Also, who knows...maybe DMT is real what you see. Doubtfull though as it's just drugs and probably just makes you hillusinate.

Originally Posted by Oneironaught

And singing praises from the rooftop isn't encouragement? Oooooookay, good to know

Oooooooookay, how about showing me specifically where I did that. Was it where I said I've never even done DMT? Was it where I said the bad trip potential makes LSD look like a bowl of Cheerios? Was it where I told people to research it big time if they ever decide to do it? Was it where I flat out said I wasn't encouraging it? Okay, I give up. Where did I stand on a rooftop and sing its praises?

Originally Posted by wer

The smokable extract is very hard to find now in days, so if you want to smoke it, the best way to do this is to extract it yourself. There are MANY great extraction techniques out there, just google 'dmt extraction technique'.
Most require that you use Mimosa Wood Bark, specifically the ones that only require you to basify and skip defatting (the process that cleans the DMT from the fatty oils of the plant). Mimosa has very little fat in it, so its the only plant you can use with these techniques. If you want to use a different material, then you want to do an Acid/Base technique. The process is very simple, and you can easily come out with a batch of very pure DMT. Just make sure you fallow the directions correctly. You can purchase these plants at Psychoactive Herbs. The owners on vacation so you'll have to wait a couple weeks.

Thanks much. I will definitely look into that, if I ever decide to take the big plunge.

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

Thanks. I don't wanna be a drug addict or anything, hell the only drug i've ever done is weed and that was last week for the first time in my life just to try it out, and i'm almost 23. I know what drugs do to people and i dont plan on doing them, my mom is a hardcore drug addict, and alcoholic, and has HIV etc so i stay far far back from drugs. I just wanted to see what it was like, and by how this sounds and from what i've heard from other people who aren't drug addicts and stuff i wanna try DMT. I know you have trips with other drugs but it's nothing special to ruin your brain over, but DMT sounds like an expierence of a lifetime. Try it once and that will be all. Also, who knows...maybe DMT is real what you see. Doubtfull though as it's just drugs and probably just makes you hillusinate.

Can we please stay on topic. This thread isn't for people to come on and complain about people using drugs. If you have something to say about this thread, make it possitave, and on-topic.

Has anyone on this site actually broken through on DMT?

Originally Posted by awakened_mind

Has anyone on this site actually broken through on DMT?

What do you mean? btw a guy at my work that has done dmt, and salvia said he will get some dmt but he's only done the pills, not the smoke.

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

What do you mean? btw a guy at my work that has done dmt, and salvia said he will get some dmt but he's only done the pills, not the smoke.

Hmm, I hear the pills don't Come on as quick and are less harder to break through on.

When on DMT, one will see a Colidiscope (goddamn I hade my spelling) of colors and feelings and emotions and what not. When on DMT, you push past this, through the center, and thats when the real trip begins. Some call it "breaking through" or being uder the "DMT dome"

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

What do you mean? btw a guy at my work that has done dmt, and salvia said he will get some dmt but he's only done the pills, not the smoke.

http://www.kilbot.net/writing/dmt.php this is what i mean.

Originally Posted by awakened_mind

Hmm, I hear the pills don't Come on as quick and are less harder to break through on.

When on DMT, one will see a Colidiscope (goddamn I hade my spelling) of colors and feelings and emotions and what not. When on DMT, you push past this, through the center, and thats when the real trip begins. Some call it "breaking through" or being uder the "DMT dome"

He said it's messed up but when i told him what you, and lots of others said it does to you he says it's not the most powerfull, not the most illegal, and it's not the biggest trip he's had and that he's had worse. i guess he never expierenced the whole thing then, yes?

Thanks for the link.

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

He said it's messed up but when i told him what you, and lots of others said it does to you he says it's not the most powerfull, not the most illegal, and it's not the biggest trip he's had and that he's had worse. i guess he never expierenced the whole thing then, yes?

Thanks for the link.

Tell him to smoke pure DMT and then see if he's had a harder trip in his life. I could be wrong though.

How do you get the video to play? i got flashplayer from that page and i click the play button but nothing happens.

edit- just watched it on youtube with the damn noise someone added to make it really hard to hear. He goes through tunnels, through shapes that are bright to these things that are always happy and stuff? trippy! they jump through you and they speak in what we see he was saying....whatever it is that must be funny but look annoying if what you see on the youtube video is what you actually see...mixed colors changing shapes. Wonder what it really is that happens while on DMT?

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

How do you get the video to play? i got flashplayer from that page and i click the play button but nothing happens.

edit- just watched it on youtube with the damn noise someone added to make it really hard to hear. He goes through tunnels, through shapes that are bright to these things that are always happy and stuff? trippy! they jump through you and they speak in what we see he was saying....whatever it is that must be funny but look annoying if what you see on the youtube video is what you actually see...mixed colors changing shapes. Wonder what it really is that happens while on DMT?

Yah, thats what my dream was sorta like. Ther e were all kinds of shapes and patterns running through me and all kinds of feelings assosiatted with curtain colors nd patterns. After I blasted through into this large domelike area, I Forgot alot of it .

I've had pretty cool experiences with ethil chloride. You can't really describe how such a transcendent state feels like...
After that I don't know how far (spiritually) can a drug take you...

Originally Posted by awakened_mind

Yah, thats what my dream was sorta like. Ther e were all kinds of shapes and patterns running through me and all kinds of feelings assosiatted with curtain colors nd patterns. After I blasted through into this large domelike area, I Forgot alot of it .

What are those little critters? always seem happy as he said and always singing...lol. I guess that's where Barney and other kids shows come from, j/k.

Originally Posted by MrGrEmLiN

I've had pretty cool experiences with ethil chloride. You can't really describe how such a transcendent state feels like...
After that I don't know how far (spiritually) can a drug take you...

You can't describe what an orgasm feels like, either.

Should I even consider trying Datura? It would deffinetally be after DMT.