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      I have a theory...

      This theory would explain de'jav'vu and other dreams where you see something and they happen (Christian point of view!)
      Maybe... this has all happened before, like, idk, like god created this once before and were living in a copy. (And it may happen again)

      What ya think?
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      Yea, that would work. If god existed, and the bible clearly stated against this, and the ability of the brain. So... I think we can assume safley that the same thing bout chronokinesis can be applied to Deja vu. No need for the supenatural creator... AGAIN. Sheesh. Everything can be explained medically and scientifically so would you people PLEASE stop blaming a NONEXISTET "creator" for all of the things you don't understand... -.-

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      I doubt it. If the reason people have deja vu is that everything really had happened before and they occasionally remembered bits of it, then it makes sense that the first time around, there would be no deja vu.

      The fact that people would have deja vu or premonitions the second time and not the first would change things, making it so that things would not happen the second time the way they did the first time. For example, the first time through, someone might have been an evil dictator, and changed history drastically, but the second time, his parents could see that their child would become an evil dictator before he was born, and decide never to have children, changing history completely. Since things would now be happening differently in the second time, and things would not be happening the second time the same way they did the first, any memories of the first time people had would not seem to be memories of what is currently happening or what is about to happen, they'd seem to be memories of things that had never happened.

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      Yea, that would work. If god existed, and the bible clearly stated against this, and the ability of the brain. So... I think we can assume safley that the same thing bout chronokinesis can be applied to Deja vu. No need for the supenatural creator... AGAIN. Sheesh. Everything can be explained medically and scientifically so would you people PLEASE stop blaming a NONEXISTET "creator" for all of the things you don't understand... -.-


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      Quote Originally Posted by Seismosaur View Post
      Yea, that would work. If god existed, and the bible clearly stated against this, and the ability of the brain. So... I think we can assume safley that the same thing bout chronokinesis can be applied to Deja vu. No need for the supenatural creator... AGAIN. Sheesh. Everything can be explained medically and scientifically so would you people PLEASE stop blaming a NONEXISTET "creator" for all of the things you don't understand... -.-
      lol seismosaur that was harsh but i have to agree with you
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      Quote Originally Posted by Octavii View Post
      lol seismosaur that was harsh but i have to agree with you

      are you guys ignorant or what,,,,,science and medicine dont prove whats false, it proves god is there, i only wish you could understand that
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      I agree with Dropout14, science proves that god exists.
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      However, I don't know why you put "Nonexistant creator" of course God the creator exists. Thats what I believe, because there really is no proof for evolution, and lots of things found in the bible can be found in life.
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      Quote Originally Posted by maytodecember View Post
      However, I don't know why you put "Nonexistant creator" of course God the creator exists. Thats what I believe, because there really is no proof for evolution, and lots of things found in the bible can be found in life.
      There is proof of evolution! plenty, ive heard relegious types admitting that its there but then sayin that god put it there to test us???? science is fact and theres no 'oh i guess...maybe...but...ifs...' about it. wheres the proof of the bible? there nice stories with morals behind them but i don't understand how god + science go hand in hand...confused:
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      Quote Originally Posted by dropout14 View Post



      are you guys ignorant or what,,,,,science and medicine dont prove whats false, it proves god is there, i only wish you could understand that
      Way to go I totally agree with you. Science and medicine are so theoretical and so far removed from the truth of what we experience: It doesn't prove or disprove anything. It merely describes physical processes seemingly involved in experience; not the actual meaning and explanation of experience.

      I personally believe that when during daytime we experience a De ja vu, we experience a certain situation in waking life that is very similair or even completely identical to what we have dreamt before: Sometimes we have only faint memories of this dream and then the current situation just seems freakishly familiar as if it has happened before but you don't know when.

      Other times we remember the dream VERY clearly: So clearly we confuse it with a previous waking situation experience. Then we can litterally stop and say: What the heck?!..... Tell me you're not going to drop the sugarpot" and then that person you said that to actually does. It's almost like we had dreams of foresight where we dreamt before what is currently happening: the exact same moment.

      God is the source of all creation: and dreams are surely a spiritual manifestation of God, but surely not God itself. Some exceptional dreams take dreamers actually into the source of creation and this is what is interpretted as prophecies of the Divine via Dreams. But these are very rare and IMHO a different thing alltogether.

      Now you (I)rational scientists can say it's all in the head and caused by brainprocesses and I would even agree with you. However that does not say ANYTHING about the "Realness" of the experience. To me every perception is real. Every experience is real: There is NO such thing as a false perception: You percieve it so it exists. Surely it doesn't exist in the waking, Material/Physical "plane" of existance, but it exists in a seperate plane instead. Nevertheless non of it is "fake" or mere "illusion".
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      not to overestimate the Value of our Concrete Knowledge;"Common sense"/Rationality,
      for doing so would make us Blind for the unimaginable, unparalleled Capacity of and Wisdom contained within our Felt Knowledge;Subconscious Intuition.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Octavii View Post
      There is proof of evolution! plenty, ive heard relegious types admitting that its there but then sayin that god put it there to test us???? science is fact and theres no 'oh i guess...maybe...but...ifs...' about it. wheres the proof of the bible? there nice stories with morals behind them but i don't understand how god + science go hand in hand...confused:
      Evoluion is real, do you not understand we are in the physical world, everything god does there is scientific backing for and the devolopment of man didnt just happen outta nowhere, it took time to perfect like the rest of the world
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      Quote Originally Posted by dropout14 View Post
      Evoluion is real, do you not understand we are in the physical world, everything god does there is scientific backing for and the devolopment of man didnt just happen outta nowhere, it took time to perfect like the rest of the world
      so are you saying that god is respnsible for evolution etc...makes more sense than adam n eve but wheres the proof of god...
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      Quote Originally Posted by Octavii View Post
      so are you saying that god is respnsible for evolution etc...makes more sense than adam n eve but wheres the proof of god...

      the proof in god is life man, remember time is an illusion....remember that
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      Okay, alot of people don't believe in god: Answer this question please:
      Is evalution happened, what triggered evalution?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Noah312 View Post
      Okay, alot of people don't believe in god: Answer this question please:
      Is evalution happened, what triggered evalution?

      i dont understand your question, God triggered evolution when he created the universe in the first place, the big bang its refurred too.
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      Personally I think the collective unconsciounce is a more likely explanation to deja vu.

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      Quote Originally Posted by maytodecember View Post
      (...)there really is no proof for evolution(...)
      I'm sorry but that ranks among one of the most ignorant and stupid remarks I have ever heard on the internet. Anyone with minimum knowledge in biology knows there is A LOT of proof for evolution.


      Quote Originally Posted by Noah312 View Post
      Okay, alot of people don't believe in god: Answer this question please:
      Is evolution happened, what triggered evolution?
      Evolution didn't happen, it happens.
      Sometimes a significant genetic mutation appears. If the mutation makes the animal more apt to survive in his environment then the creature will survive and reproduce, leading to the perpetuation of the mutation.

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      I really don't know what a deja vu is, but for me it seems as if I had a dream about that few seconds, because I feel a few things what will happen, but then strange things come, like: he will stand up 'ok', he goes around that corner 'ok', a zombie comes behind me and pokes me with a spear 'what the..'. Of course these last things never happen...

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      Quote Originally Posted by dropout14 View Post
      Yea, that would work. If god existed, and the bible clearly stated against this, and the ability of the brain. So... I think we can assume safley that the same thing bout chronokinesis can be applied to Deja vu. No need for the supenatural creator... AGAIN. Sheesh. Everything can be explained medically and scientifically so would you people PLEASE stop blaming a NONEXISTET "creator" for all of the things you don't understand... -.-


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      ROFL, yes, it can. Name ONE thing that can't be solved without a "higher power" or "God"

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      Quote Originally Posted by maytodecember View Post
      I agree with Dropout14, science proves that god exists.
      Science makes no comment on the Supernatural, to say such a thing is VERY ignorant. Science CAN'T Prove OR Disprove god. Why? Because to believe in god takes faith, thus ruling out proof. Science REQUIRES proof. Therefore, science can't be used to Prove/disprove god. Oh, and because thisd "God" was designed so a to make it IMPOSSIBLE to prove against him with common sense (or uncommon )

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      Quote Originally Posted by SKA View Post
      Way to go I totally agree with you. Science and medicine are so theoretical and so far removed from the truth of what we experience: It doesn't prove or disprove anything. It merely describes physical processes seemingly involved in experience; not the actual meaning and explanation of experience.

      I personally believe that when during daytime we experience a De ja vu, we experience a certain situation in waking life that is very similair or even completely identical to what we have dreamt before: Sometimes we have only faint memories of this dream and then the current situation just seems freakishly familiar as if it has happened before but you don't know when.

      Other times we remember the dream VERY clearly: So clearly we confuse it with a previous waking situation experience. Then we can litterally stop and say: What the heck?!..... Tell me you're not going to drop the sugarpot" and then that person you said that to actually does. It's almost like we had dreams of foresight where we dreamt before what is currently happening: the exact same moment.

      God is the source of all creation: and dreams are surely a spiritual manifestation of God, but surely not God itself. Some exceptional dreams take dreamers actually into the source of creation and this is what is interpretted as prophecies of the Divine via Dreams. But these are very rare and IMHO a different thing alltogether.

      Now you (I)rational scientists can say it's all in the head and caused by brainprocesses and I would even agree with you. However that does not say ANYTHING about the "Realness" of the experience. To me every perception is real. Every experience is real: There is NO such thing as a false perception: You percieve it so it exists. Surely it doesn't exist in the waking, Material/Physical "plane" of existance, but it exists in a seperate plane instead. Nevertheless non of it is "fake" or mere "illusion".
      WRONG! Sciene is truth and ONLY truth. Truth needs proof. Therefore, everything in science and medicine is based on proof. And, since there is no proof of God, he isn't a part of science. You are probably one of those people who think science is a religion. Aren't you? Don't worry, i'll enlighten you... You've obviously been HORRIBLY misinformed...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Seismosaur View Post
      ROFL, yes, it can. Name ONE thing that can't be solved without a "higher power" or "God"
      There is one thing: How did the universe came to be? Yes there's the big bang theory but it doesn't tell us how/when/why space, time and all the matter came into existence.
      Whatever the answer to that question is, it surely is beyond or comprehension. There is no way science can explain it, but no crappy-religious-godly-explanation will do it either...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Scatterbrain View Post
      There is one thing: How did the universe came to be? Yes there's the big bang theory but it doesn't tell us how/when/why space, time and all the matter came into existence.
      Whatever the answer to that question is, it surely is beyond or comprehension. There is no way science can explain it, but no crappy-religious-godly-explanation will do it either...
      The BEST ANSWER SO FAR is that we were the effect of another universe's death. Sure, we don'tr know for sure, but that IS a pretty good, well backed theory. Unlike this Deja' vu theory.

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      I've heard about that but it doesn't really tell you how matter and energy were created.

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