Thread: OBE's explained

Sorry for the bump.

I've heard this before. OBEs can be "artificially" created, and then there's the real thing.

If you've never experienced an OBE before, you won't believe it. The only reason I do is because I have had confirmations while out of my body that I would have had absolutely NO way of guessing let alone knowing.

Originally Posted by NewReality

Sorry for the bump.

I've heard this before. OBEs can be "artificially" created, and then there's the real thing.

If you've never experienced an OBE before, you won't believe it. The only reason I do is because I have had confirmations while out of my body that I would have had absolutely NO way of guessing let alone knowing.

Yeah, 2 types of OBE's.

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

Yeah, 2 types of OBE's.

Not at all. With the technology available to us today, the experience of stimulating our brains with a bunch of magnets placed around our head to make one "feel" as if they are out of their body has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt even though many people besides myself has had confirmations that we are nothing more than our physical selves. They're both the same experience and the confirmations we've had are all just "vague but lucky guesses" like how little cousin Bobby Joe went to school with a black t-shirt today.

Originally Posted by NewReality

Not at all. With the technology available to us today, the experience of stimulating our brains with a bunch of magnets placed around our head to make one "feel" as if they are out of their body has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt even though many people besides myself has had confirmations that we are nothing more than our physical selves. They're both the same experience and the confirmations we've had are all just "vague but lucky guesses" like how little cousin Bobby Joe went to school with a black t-shirt today.

So the things explained is like cold reading? just a statistical guess like those psychic people? except you're seeeing the reading, instead of being told? They have done those expieriments and made you feel like that, but have they made you say stories like "this and that is over there, the people down the street said so and so, and this is what my family did yesterday" and get everything exactly right? They make you feel like you're outside the body, but do they actually show you outside the body? i will have to re read the article, but i have yet to hear any "i was outside my body, and i left where i was and went into space" or whatever. All i remember from the article is them saying they feel outside their body, and they feal fear when so and so is moves in the air at the shadow or whatever it was...arm or magnet? i forget.

Anyway, nothings really explained, they still have lots of work to do. I need sleep now.

Originally Posted by NewReality

Not at all. With the technology available to us today, the experience of stimulating our brains with a bunch of magnets placed around our head to make one "feel" as if they are out of their body has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt even though many people besides myself has had confirmations that we are nothing more than our physical selves. They're both the same experience and the confirmations we've had are all just "vague but lucky guesses" like how little cousin Bobby Joe went to school with a black t-shirt today.

Can I get a reliable reference, please? I wonder who's doing lucky guesses!

With the technology I work with (to do clinical work--not experiments) I require about 2 Tesla to get through the skull! I agree it may be less when you use a higher frequencies, but to get this field generated still takes a discharge from a capacitor that causes a current of more than a kilo-ampere running through a thick loop of copper. I mean, this is SERIOUS technology. (I suspect non-clinical stimulators sometimes talked about may either be related to sound or due to frequency cause other types of radiation, ie, RF.)

My colleagues and I no not discuss the difference between physical and non-physical selves in a world known to be far too inadequate to resolve this much in neuroscience- and psychology-detail in many years to come. Often I still feel almost lost like Descartes about neuroscience results (and I love the little pun introduced by a neurophysiology background!): 'I think, therefore I am'.

Hi, Guys! Just relax and start dreaming. Even your waking reality is different from everybody else's. Don't go and fight about nothing like that! Everything is somebody's interpretation of something!

so basicly OBEs are not paranormal anymore?

They still are. Created OBE's in a lab and real ones are supposidly REALLY different.

Wow good old topic.

I do not think of OBE's to have ever been "supernatural".

To be supernatural, it would have to be something that a normal person couldn't do. (or in other words, it would be above the natural status of a human person).

Everyone though OBE's, just they either think its a dream or dont remember it. So it is perfectly natural.

Anyway though, ive heard the same thing LF, that OBE's in labs are completley different, but i've also heard that they are better then normal ones, and you can do more at the get go then that of which you can do when you first start to obe.