Automatic Writing vs Lucid Dreams

**Noske** · 02-25-2008 07:27 AM

I'm not going to go into a whole lot of detail here, but basically I have a male spirit guide that I've been speaking with in an awake state using a technique called Automatic Writing and Automatic Art.

I started speaking to him with this technique after my very first two lucid dreams, but lately I've become involved in religion, and believe that one of my other guides or people that I've been communicating with (in an awake state) MAY be Saint Joan of Arc. (Or as she prefers, "Jehanne".)

I have had a dream with her in it that ended up feeling a lot more real once I'd grabbed her hand in it, but that's not the problem. You can totally feel the difference between doing Automatic Writing with the previous guide as opposed to Jehanne. She's far more serious, and is much more willing to tell me things that I don't want to hear.

The problem is that in the past when speaking with this male guide, he's never said anything along the lines of me not telling people about my dreams and things that he's told me. Yet Jehanne - through automatic writing - has said that I'm not supposed to talk to anyone about it. Though after begging her to allow me at least one person, she obliged.

However, in the one dream that I've had with her in it that was only semi lucid, she never said a word to me. Just gave me this knowing, amused smile. I haven't had a lucid dream in a while, either, and I think I'd end up forgetting to ask once I did have one.

So this is what I ask of you people here. Would you trust what the automatic writing during a completely awake state is telling you, and NOT speak of your dreams, even if it's hard to understand what they are talking about; or would you freely speak of your dreams until said guide popped up in a dream and told you to shut your trap?

I don't want to end up making Jehanne angry by me running my mouth out of ignorance and not trusting her horrible handwriting enough, but at the same time, I want to be able to speak about the dreams so that I can get further clarification on them.

So what would you guys do in this situation? I MAY be able to provide some more information if you request it, but I'm just not sure what I'm supposed to say, and what I should leave out by order of the 'higher ups'.

**TempleGuard** · 02-25-2008 01:21 PM

She told you, that you can tell only one person, and cuz you dont want to make her angry you are telling this to the whole DV. Yea, I wonder why she is not talking to you... Btw I would like some info about this.

**Noske** · 02-25-2008 01:41 PM

No no no. You misunderstand. The dream happened LONG before I actually started speaking to her in particular, and before I started becoming interested in religion.

And even before that, I had my male guide to talk to and see in dreams. But he never said anything about not telling anyone. It was only Jehanne that said I shouldn't, and that was through automatic writing.

However, I've discussed many of these lucid dreams and things with people before that happened, yet it was only now that I've been told not to, and it was only by her.

And she told me not to discuss the content of the dreams, the art that she produces for me, and what she says to me. What I have said in my first post is things that I've already told people before I was told not to.

Basically what I want to know is whether I should trust what the automatic writing is telling me, or if I should just wait for a dream to tell me otherwise.

And what else do you need to know?

**Oneiro** · 02-25-2008 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Noske

And she told me not to discuss the content of the dreams, the art that she produces for me, and what she says to me.

Hello Noske. Okay.. so you can't discuss the content of the art that is produced.. but can you show any of it here?

Originally Posted by Noske

Basically what I want to know is whether I should trust what the automatic writing is telling me, or if I should just wait for a dream to tell me otherwise.

Don't trust ANY voices.. IRL or in dreaming.

Originally Posted by Noske

And what else do you need to know?

I'd like to see some of the art.

**Noske** · 02-25-2008 10:41 PM

Okay, given that I have already shown two of the images and discussed some of the dreams elsewhere, I'm allowed to show what has already been drawn/written to me before I was told that I wasn't supposed to say anything.

So that gives you one image that she drew, and one image that I drew from what I could remember of her face in my semi-lucid dream. I think that also covers almost all the lucid dreams I've had with this male guide too.

But everything else from now on, I can't show or discuss. I guess I could ask for permission if I really didn't understand something, but given that even some of my strangest regular dreams are starting to make some scary sense when putting them in context with the bible - which I haven't fully read yet - it's best I don't say too much in case I make someone angry.

So here are the images. The one that Jehanne drew is either her reaching up while holding a standard and commanding her army, or she's standing in flames. But given that she appears to be more concerned about her life rather than death, it's more likely it's her commanding the army.

Oh, and the best thing is....Even though she's serious business, she forgives me for making jokes.

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