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      Sleep Paralysis Visitations

      I've heard about the old hag and the incubus/succubus or whicherver it is that sits on you while trapped in a sort of sleep paralysis long before I've found myself actually in sleep paralysis. I think I've been in sleep paralysis a couple of times, and I did have a visitation by some sort of being... but I would not say it was a malicious entity.

      THE FIRST TIME: I had an OOBE for the first and only time, and I was wandering throughout my house for a short period. I know I it was an OOBE because I felt all of the strange vibrations and noises that I have since read about when people astral project or have OOBE's. Anyhow, shortly upon re-entering my body, I looked to my bedside and saw a large almost heroic silouette of a person. I say "heroic" because it was a dark silouette but there were great shafts of white light emenating from within this being's body. This being spoke to me with some form of telepathy I think, and told me basically "this is what becomes of people who pollute their bodies with intoxicants." Then I felt the painful constriction in my chest that people describe when speaking of the old hag or whatever. I somehow forced myself to "wake up" from that experience.

      THE SECOND TIME: This time I was much more calm and relaxed. I was sleeping over a friends house and I was totally covered in blankets. When I entered the paralysis I knew I couldn't move, but I knew if I relaxed and just "rolled with it" I would be fine. I remember seeing a view from inside the blankets in which I laid, but what saw was very different from what it looked like in real life... it was almost like an alternate version of where I was. There weren't any colors really, and there were strange wormlike fibers on the blankets wriggling around. It was weired, but I guess the point is that since I was relaxed there was no painful constriction and I soon ventured from there into a non-lucid dream.

      I guess I thought it was kind of interesting that the first time I had the sleep paralysis and painfull suffocating, I saw a kind of "higher" being enflicting the pain rather than the evil hag or something like that.

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      It's pretty common to experience the "Old Hag" at the onset of an OBE/AP.
      I've experienced this many times myself. The paralysis, and feeling like there was something "not good" around me or sitting on me. But like you as I became more accustomed to the experience, the fear level decreased, I went further into my projections, and I haven't experienced the "Old Hag" in a awhile. I think the fear and anxiety just create the experience of something negative being around you. What do you think??
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      I was lying in bed one morning and heard russling and noise at my side down on the floor thinking it was rats in my room, but I have no rats in here. Then the noise got closer and jumped on my bed walked up my chest it was a rat alrite.

      I couldnt move at all then instantly I realised it was Sleep Paralysis, the rat was just kinda snifing my face. I felt pretty stressed. I kinda couldnt breath but pushed air through my lungs and made a pushing/gasping noise and strained hard to move and broke free.

      I awoke but felt tired as if I just awoke and the time between waking and actually knowing I was awake was lost in recollection, maybe the stress caused the loss.
      To focus on one state of mind always.

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      I recently had a sleep paralsis experience about a few days ago, when i woke up i was in my room but i could feel a presence next to my bed, and the aura of this presence was decidelly sinister, i could then feel this presence touching me and prodding me, almost felt like what people describe as an alien aduction (on a sidenote i read in a newspaper that sleep paralysis could be the reason for these expierinces according to 'experts'), i then decided i would not fear this entity, whatever it might be and tried to say hello to it, i tried this several times but could not speak, my mouth was moving but no words were coming out, i then awoke in my room. I have also expierienced a pleasent being as well while trying to astral project which went shh at me as if trying to calm me as i was trying to get out of my body, and had this weird feeling of my body rotating 360 degrees round and then i woke up.

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      As far as all Sleep Paralysis experienced I've read about go, none of the evil presences have attempted to seduce them or have sex with them, and I think I'm right in saying that's what incubeses and succubi do; so it can't be either of those two. Logic, hurrah.

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      I've had one "visitation", nothing malicious at all though - it was my cat (see my avatar). I woke up in the middle of the night, heard a loud sound that I thought was purring, and saw - and felt - my cat sitting on me. He started coming closer to my face until he was right in front of it and suddenly disappeared (I then assumed he had walked past me), and I fell back asleep.

      I was pretty confused when I woke up the next morning since the cat is locked out of my bedroom and the corridor at night, but just assumed that maybe I had left a door open on accident. Same thing happened the next night though, and that time I was sure he couldn't actually have been in the room.

      Again, the same thing happened the next night, but this time I suddenly woke up in the middle of it, the purring sound disappeared and I noticed myself wheezing and having difficulty breathing. I had a bad cold at the time, so I suppose what happened is that I somehow woke up because of that, was still paralyzed from sleep, and my brain tried to make sense of the situation by conjuring up my purring, heavy cat on my chest I'm glad it was just him and not the infamous old hag or something similar!

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      Yeah, I've also had the experience of having an entity try to calm and soothe me (aside from the "old-hag"). I remember him saying that everyone feels this way at first, and to try and stay calm.

      Since others of you have experienced animal presences during this state, both menacing and non-menacing, it leads me to think that what we are feeling, and how we react to that feeling, controls what we experience.
      Just one possibility.
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      Originally posted by reikigirl
      It's pretty common to experience the \"Old Hag\" at the onset of an OBE/AP.
      I've experienced this many times myself. *The paralysis, and feeling like there was something \"not good\" around me or sitting on me. *But like you as I became more accustomed to the experience, the fear level decreased, I went further into my projections, and I haven't experienced the \"Old Hag\" in a awhile. *I think the fear and anxiety just create the experience of something negative being around you. *What do you think??
      i think you're right, I have had these experiences well over hundreds of times now... and i used to be afraid of it. Now that im not afraid of it, I can actually "role" out of my body...and walk through my house....once I saw a little boy standing in my room ...I asked him "whats youre name'' ...he replied "I dont know". He didnt seem to know anything...he was in somekind of catonic blaze or something.....

      well ...I have read much about it know and I gain more and more controle with each new experience...but as soon as I get excited I WAKE Up... and that sucks...cause its kinda hard not to get excited

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      I know it is hard not to get excited. The little boy was probably unconsciously astral projecting in his sleep. Upon awakening he may/may not have remembered you in his "dream".

      That's really good control if you can "roll-out" now. I personally will myself to "float" out, starting with my arms. It's a pretty weird sensation.
      Ask and you shall know.

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      Originally posted by reikigirl
      I know it is hard not to get excited. *The little boy was probably unconsciously astral projecting in his sleep. *Upon awakening he may/may not have remembered you in his \"dream\".

      That's really good control if you can \"roll-out\" now. *I personally will myself to \"float\" out, starting with my arms. *It's a pretty weird sensation.
      I find it much easier to "roll-out" sideways...the little boy was the first character i met in a projection...usually im just in my dark room.......but now I was calm and not scared and all of a sudden i saw a little boy standen on the ceiling ... looking around a bit....it was a very weird experience because I had the feeling the boy was not created by my me....

      I am new here by the way.... im dutch so that explaines my crappy english

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      Well let me say "Welcome". Your English is great, much better than many people who live here in the States.

      If you want to chat about astral projection, lucid dreaming, or anything metaphysical, I'm your girl. PM me anytime.
      Ask and you shall know.

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      i would also like to chat with someone. i actaully need advice but mostly information. and i do have some things to offer you as well. mainly knowledge and my own experiences.

      well anyways a couple weeks ago i had a visit from satan himself. he was apparently trying to scare me or something and i must have been dreaming or something before had because suddenly i was in my room everything looking 100 percent real with me under the covers but still able to see him standing over me (A faceless man). so im assuming this was like oobe spirit world type but for some reason after he left (i merely prayed to get him to leave) i went back into normal dream?



      i found out later why he was really there when i broke my staff out of frustration. so apparently he was filling my subconsciense with things or something or maybe my mind with hatred. i can see how he can do this too because hes already got somewhat of a grip on me from anger and what not that i have done previously. what i need to do now is to stop this but i dont know exactly how and would appreciate and advice or information...
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