Is Psycho kinesis possible in waking life?

[dreamtamer007]

Is Psycho kinesis possible in waking life? I can move things and people in my dreams and do it with no effort it seems. I have only done this once in a lucid dream. When a person annoyed me I picked them up a sat them back down. But moving thing always seems to be possible in my dreams. I lock and unlock doors without giving it a second thought in a lot of dreams. I was wandering if this is possible in waking life.

[Redeyedwolfking]

I do that alot in my dreams also. Ive also done it in real life but it was really hard I had to make my self beleive that if I did not get a pencil to move I would die a very painful death. I could feel an intence need for the pencil to move so powerful that there was no exceptions It had to move and it did. I think there is a point in reality were something is so badly needed by someone it will automatically happen. "the thing that truly must happen must happen".

[dreamtamer007]

There was a TV show with a guy that would levitate and move stuff. I wonder what happen to that show. It does not come on TV any more. Has anyone seen it?

[Howie]

I can magically move this post to General discussion or beyond dreaming. Or do you plan on trying to formulate some experiment with this?

[nina]

Originally posted by dreamtamer007 There was a TV show with a guy that would levitate and move stuff. I wonder what happen to that show. It does not come on TV any more. Has anyone seen it? Are you talking about David Blaine? You do realize he is just a magician right...MAGIC TRICKS??

[CT]

no.

[dreamtamer007]

Originally posted by Aquanina Are you talking about David Blaine? You do realize he is just a magician right...MAGIC TRICKS?? Yea (David Blaine) that’s the guy. Freaked out a lot of people. Sure howetzer no problem ,but I thought it could be tried by a sample of people to prove or disprove the capability

[Placebo]

You misunderstand what this section is for then The idea is that the OP (original poster) will formulate an experiment or research procedure to examine something, and get feedback which he will then explore.

[dreamtamer007]

Ok so there is no truth to someone being able to move an object in waking consciousness and there is no experiment to conduct. no problem, move the post.

[Howie]

Originally posted by dreamtamer007 Ok so there is no truth to someone being able to move an object in waking consciousness and there is no experiment to conduct. no problem, move the post. My intention was not to say there is no truth to what you were proposing. Who knows. But if you can think of a formula or procedure of how we can go about testing this theory then cool. Lets do it. Laboratory Standard Operating Procedures Starting a new thread in this Forum

[dreamtamer007]

Originally posted by Howetzer My intention was not to say there is no truth to what you were proposing. Who knows. But if you can think of a formula or procedure of how we can go about testing this theory then cool. Lets do it. Laboratory Standard Operating Procedures Starting a new thread in this Forum No go ahead and move it. I was not thinking of the proper thread.

[Howie]

Originally posted by dreamtamer007 No go ahead and move it. I was not thinking of the proper thread. *Moved to beyond Dreaming* If anyone has any ideas for research on this topic we can always move it back.

[Krys]

I think that you can move things while you're concious but this is really a complicated subject to debate because people are always going back and forth without any proof. I can move a toothpick but even that takes a lot of concentration. I bet there was a time in the early history of human beings where everyone was psychic and could move things with there mind and communicate too. I also think that some of the tribes of people in the world who still live primatively are psychic and can communicate with each other without words. But then again, it's just my theory...

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by dreamtamer007 Is Psycho kinesis possible in waking life? I can move things and people in my dreams and do it with no effort it seems. I have only done this once in a lucid dream. When a person annoyed me I picked them up a sat them back down. But moving thing always seems to be possible in my dreams. I lock and unlock doors without giving it a second thought in a lot of dreams. I was wandering if this is possible in waking life. many of us levitate in dreams without being able to levitate in waking life. But, then again, several of the World's higher Religions have reported having Saints who had been famous for levitating. Regarding psychokinesis, the Catholic Church had a Saint named Francis of Paola who was quite adept at psycho kinesis -- not only being able to move things himself, but adjusting the gravity of objects so that other people could move things as well. so, yes, its been done before. But there must be more to it than simply being able to do it in one's dreams. Unfortunately there is always hope. Levitating in a dream should be a sure and certain reality check that one is dreaming, yet everytime I levitate in a dream I simplistically suppose that FINALLY I am able to levitate while awake in real life. At the turn of the 20th Century Vivekananda produced and English Translation and Commentary on Patanjali's Treatise on the 33 Miraculous Powers to be gained from Yoga, psychokinesis being one of the powers mentioned. The book is still in print and available through the Ramakrishna Vivekananda Center of New York, though I don't think they do online purchases yet. But I read the book, and I have no miraculous powers. And even Vivekananda, who wrote the book, had no miraculous powers (which suggests the size of his Manhood in having the audacity to publish something under his name when he so obviously could not vouch for a single word of it). It is a shame that St. Joseph of Copertino, who was seen to levitate hundreds of times, and St. Francis of paola who was seen to practice psycho kinesis, and many other miracles, hundred of times, it is unfortunate that they never wrote any instruction manuals for the rest of us.

[dreamtamer007]

Someone in another thread said they could bend a spoon with there mind wile holding it by making the molecules move faster and there by heating the metal, then they were able to bend it with there fingers. I said did you ever use a thermometer to see if you where actually raising the temperature but the answer was no. And if an experiment were don, there would be no need to hold the spoon in your fingers to raise the temperature. Sounds like a magic trick. With the emphasis on trick.

[Howie]

Do not try and bend the spoon, that is impossible. Instead only try and realize the truth. There is no spoon. Then you will see that it is not he spoon that bends, only your mind.

[halfasked1]

Matrix

[Sinar]

lol, thats funny. like said before, this is an interesting topic. there have been reports of things like mothers lifting the back ends of cars (talking about 100lb women here) if their child got stuck under it. this is knda similar. being a Christian, i belive it is possible through faith. as Jesus said "i tell you the truth, if you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you could tell a mountain to 'move over there' and it will go over there" he problem is that we all have the doubts. we could easily say ' i will move this mountain becuase Jesus said i could" but then in realality we always have the little bit of dout saying "this probably won't work". but , then again, if you get true 100% faith in it then you would be able to God might have made it also possible for us to use psycho kinesis. you'll just have to keep tryin

[jackonaut]

i just thought i'd mention that phenomenon is the illest movie ever.

[Matchbook]

To be honest, I don't believe in psychokinesis, BUT I am open to the possibility that it is real. As far as bending spoons or moving objects, I've seen it all done before. I used to be really into magic, especially mental magic. I learned to bend forks and all of that, but it's all a trick. There are people SO good at those things that they can do it right in front of your face and you would never notice it. Same with a lot of other tricks. Let me add that if someone were able to levitate, why can they only levitate a few inches, or a foot at the most? (I'm not talking about stage magicians). If they are alterring their gravitational pull so that it reverses and they move upward, they should be able to continue that upward ascent for awhile, instead of going a few inches and coming back down. You could argue it would take a lot of concentration to do that, perhaps, but I think if you can alter gravity for that long, you should at least be able to ascend a few feet. Why not? I just don't understand why there are at least a few tens of thousands people in the world that claim they are able to move objects with their mind, but it can never be documented. Somebody videotape it with good quality and have a pencil on a desk, move to the other side of the room and come back to show their are no strings, and then stand there are move it, however long it takes you. Then do it for a scientist. You'd change science single-handedly forever! I dont believe people that whine about being in a controlled setting, and not being able to do it. If your mental skills are so adept that you can move things, certainly you can do it with an observer. But then again, you never know, right? There are plenty of variables in this world.

[Placebo]

The problem is that most people who claim to be able to do telekinesis cannot move a pencil. The forces involved are so small, that it would be difficult to convince a scientist. A lot of scientists have this idea of 'If I can fake it, then what you're doing is not real' Btw, I've heard that some universities are actually studying people who claim to do telekinesis. Once someone can do it well enough, and in a scientific setting. And be able to repeat it for others... THEN science look at it closer.

[Howie]

Originally posted by Placebo The problem is that most people who claim to be able to do telekinesis cannot move a pencil. The forces involved are so small, that it would be difficult to convince a scientist. A lot of scientists have this idea of 'If I can fake it, then what you're doing is not real' Btw, I've heard that some universities are actually studying people who claim to do telekinesis. Once someone can do it well enough, and in a scientific setting. And be able to repeat it for others... THEN science look at it closer. placebo, We need a Dreamviews labratory to conduct experiments. similar to Psyko kinesis, other kinesis abilities, dream sharing and others. It will all be labled as BS. Just like you describe about having a controlled setting. A lot of the research done in the Research Team is worthless because in is done via the internet. I wish I were rich!! *By the way. The Monroe institute as well as The lucidity institute do conduct experiments and seminars to anyone that thinks they have "abilities."

[SweetMelancholy]

Telekinesis (same as Psychokinesis) is true. However, it is very very difficult to prove it scientifically. Because, scientists want a telekinetic to move or levitate big things like chairs etc.etc. and In my opinion this is impossible! Although, I dont want it to be proved...dont know exactly why, but it seems dangerous if everyone was teached...anyway just a thought nevermind. I have also heard (dont know if it's true) that our our brain uses only 10% of it's whole capacity...I think you get the point

[Merck]

This topic has been made countless times. I can't say whether it is possible or not, but I CAN say that there has NEVER been a shred of proof that it is possible to my knowledge. If anyone has read any articles in any scientific journals that DO show proof, please let me know. And about the statement about only 10% of the brain being used, its another false statement that many people have heard and beleive. Only about 10% of the brain is used at a time, certain parts of the brain are used at certain times in order to do certain things.

[SweetMelancholy]

And about the statement about only 10% of the brain being used, its another false statement that many people have heard and beleive. Only about 10% of the brain is used at a time, certain parts of the brain are used at certain times in order to do certain things. [/b] Well, again I think there is no actual proof. It's an endless debate. I am saying that not for sure though I CAN say that there has NEVER been a shred of proof that it is possible to my knowledge[/b] Definately, there is no. It would be too revolutionary if was proofed that everyone can move things with no hands! wouldnn't be?