Thread: Near Death Experiences are real?

Okay, before I thought that Near Death Experiences was caused by the brain in a very vivid dreaming state. Lately, I have done some Internet research about NDE's, and my conclusion is that I was wrong, and that NDE's is a experience of a Afterlife. (Before I thought it was impossible to teleport into a Afterlife near death, before the actual death.)

The reason is that there are several signs that shows that NDE's is a start of a Afterlife, and is for real (not a dream). Here is a index link to some important articles, and must better be read carefully by sceptics. (At least twice.) Link:

http://www.near-death.com/evidence.html

You will find links to more NDE articles on that page. One of the articles is that people born blind can see during a NDE. Article here:

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/evidence03.html

As far as I know, blind people have dreams with the other senses than visions, so they propably have never seen in a dream, because they don't know what seeing is. And this is, of course, a sign that NDE's is real Afterlife experiences since it's the firt time people born blind can see.

What do you think about all this? Is NDE's a experience of a Afterlife? That's what I think now.

I heard of this guy who people thought was definitely dead, and just as they were about to sign the death certificate, he awoke, and everyone was like: wtf?

~Haz

ive had one and they are so freakishly scary that you can never forget them. 5 years and i remember every single part of it vividly

The brain does strange things at the brink of death (mostly because of oxygen deprivation). I highly doubt that it is some glimpse of the afterlife. You might then ask, "well then why do most people report similar visions/experiences?". Most people have similar ideas of what it should be like to die.

i didint see the afterlife i saw my life every last bit of it but from 3rd person like i was watched from a paralell reality and i saw grim and i snapped into consisness as he pulled his sythe back opening his cloak

Originally posted by bradybaker
The brain does strange things at the brink of death (mostly because of oxygen deprivation). I highly doubt that it is some glimpse of the afterlife. You might then ask, \"well then why do most people report similar visions/experiences?\". Most people have similar ideas of what it should be like to die.

Basically covered what I was thinking - the brain isn't exactly in the best state when you're about to die, so it's not gonna report very accurate sightings, espcially when your body has about 10 seconds to live, y'know.

I have another theory.

You all know that when you turn on your computer, you are greeted by a series of screens as it boots up? On most computers, they are similar.

My theory is that when you come back to life, your brain is undergoing a bootup sequence.

Five years old, I was under water for almost five minutes. I was leaving (in spirit) when I 'saw' the lifeguard trying to resuscitate me, all the people standing around me when...whoosh! I was back in my bod. Don't know how I could have seen it from above, exactly as it was, if it weren't really happening.

Originally posted by lone_wolf
i didint see the afterlife i saw my life every last bit of it but from 3rd person like i was watched from a paralell reality and i saw grim and i snapped into consisness as he pulled his sythe back opening his cloak

hahahah. you jest.

Didn't notice that, but cloaks don't open yeah.

Originally posted by Seeker
I have another theory.

You all know that when you turn on your computer, you are greeted by a series of screens as it boots up? *On most computers, they are similar.

My theory is that when you come back to life, your brain is undergoing a bootup sequence.

The more one learns about the human brain and the more you learn about computers it is remarkable the similarities. To the point of being a little scary.

Trapped in pugatory

Lucid apple has been helping me with some of these bizzare iccidents that I have been having. Unfortunatly the post was erased last week.
Human
that is some great info. thanks

Well, we sort of built them in the image of ourselves (god anyone). They perform things we ask them to do in a methodical way that we can all understand - it wouldn't make sense to of built computers in a way that isn't easy to understand. Like, they take an operation and calculate it, like we do. They don't take an operation, peer into the sky, think about a chocolate orange before dancing around like a banana then calculating the operation back to front. Yeah.

Ok... isn't it true that during NDE's that people have experienced doctors have recored NO brain functions going on? If there is NOTHING going on in the brain then how can it be described as a reboot or a malfunction in the brain?

How about fake memories? They wake up from a coma or whatever with no brain signals, and they relaise quite quickly they were dead. So they think back to "how did being dead feel" (it's a question everybody wants to know the answer to), and the brain just fills it in with generic cloak and dagger type stuff.

Originally posted by Kaniaz
Didn't notice that, but cloaks don't open yeah.

if something is slashed by a supernatural being with a sythe it in the very least would open and "I" know what "I" saw

Please rephrase your post so that I can understand it.

ok then

if you cut your shirt (dont put anything aganist this example to annoy me) from top to bottom down the middle it would open (I tested it)

Okay....so the grim reaper cut himself with scythe?

So to get back on track who, knows about these near death expieriances?


Tell me all you know!!!

what do you want to know about them.

and no he didint cut himself he cut his cloak

Originally posted by lone_wolf
what do you want to know about them.

and no he didint cut himself he cut his cloak

I am assuming that this stage that is considered a "near death expieriance", is a stage of deep sleep where you encouter the same or similar results of somone who has had a near death expiearance. And has no association of actual death.
That is what I percieved it to be. Am I wrong?

Originally posted by Kaniaz
How about fake memories? They wake up from a coma or whatever with no brain signals, and they relaise quite quickly they were dead. So they think back to \"how did being dead feel\" (it's a question everybody wants to know the answer to), and the brain just fills it in with generic cloak and dagger type stuff.

Hehe, I forgot that I posted here. But yeah, that sounds like a pretty reasonable explanation. Maybe cloak and "scythe" is what the brain fills it in with, hehe.

Has anyone seen that movie (forget what it's called) with Keefer (sp?) Sutherland, Julia Roberts, and Kevin Bacon in it where they play doctors that take turns killing eachother and bringing them back to life to experiment with NDE's? Then later in the movie all sorts of things that rank highly on anyones weird shitometer start to happen. Havn't seen it since I was around 15-16 but I remember it being pretty interesting none the less.

Making a post so it will be in my reply mail, so i wont forget to aswer to Howetzer and Kaniaz.
Have some interesting things to say from own experience. but to busy to make a long post here right now.

Near death experience is for sure no false memories!
So its not the memories are made later when your brain goes back to normal brain patterns
and EEG. Been there!

LucidApple.

back on the subject of NDEs, here's something that caught my mind. If the seven year old who was drowning saw herself from a third person point of view. Or can describe a near death experience (this could include all young children who have had NDEs), without any prior knowledge of the advanced concept of NDEs. Without ever being introduced to the subject... then how are they able to describe near death experiences that correspond with NDEs described by adults.!!?

I have had four expiriences that have grabbed my attention.
I am in a state that has been described to me as a deep lucid. Unlike sleep paralysis on these occasions I am completly cosncious but without the abilty to move or have any auditory input or visual characteristics. Just a void of consciousness.
It has been explained to be called a near death experience. I am still in the process Of coming to my own conclusion.
A state at which you become Lucid during Delta sleep.

Well what is the last thing to go? They say hearing. I think that is said to ease the loved ones talking to the dead, or near dead.
It would seem more likley that your consciousness would be the last thing to peeter out opon death.

Also I have heard of near death dreams. Dreams where someone has a dream that they are going to die a week or so before they do. A precognition. I don't know about that one.