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      I had a dream about a month ago where I was an elderly lady. (This was not a lucid dream, but it was very vivid) I new in the dream that I /or her had two days to live. Now provided, this was most likley only my subconscious manifesting the scenario to feel like it would to me. Even so, it seemed very real and I will never forget that feeling.
      So this, in a way could be in a classification of near death experiances.

      I feel with all the input & data your subconscious has collected over the years about death and how it is described, that equalled with intuition can come up with a pretty accurate account of how a particular feeling feels.

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      if what these people are saying is true, about their NDE's , and if you read all the evidence and it is true....then you are a fool to believe that NDE's are fake, things happen like the blind people seeing, how could they see if it was fake? their minds cant create the images because their mind has no idea what seeing looks like.....and other things like doctor's stopping a persons heart and cutting off all the oxygen to the brain , to operate on them, and the person tells of floating above the body and seeing instruments they used to operate on them while they were 'dead' , how can this be fake if they saw real things while their body was dead? to believe NDE's are not real is just denying the facts

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      I am 50% - 50%.

      If a person can remember a NDE means that his brain was in function and was memorizing what was "happening".
      Also...well if we accept the existence of Remote Viewing and other stuff like that...then it's again the brain that receives information. And it's not so uncommon that such things happen during such an emotional shock like dying. Huh?

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      to find the answer you must think logically, if in fact you are connected with the after-life when you have a NDE, then that means that in you, there is some sort of connection with your present life and afterlife, well, my big question is, how come you can see the after life when you are still alive ONLY when you are nearly dying? there is bound to be another way to enter it, or see it, and obviously in a NDE your brain is undergowing somthing that has never happend, and your body wasn't constructed to know what to do in this type of situation and therfore anything can happen. ie. OBE and that kinda stuff you could see it in your head and think it were real. i had a dream that i was SURE i was 100% ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE was true, and i confronted the person in my dream about what happend (thinking it was real) and it wasn't and i felt like an idiot. but then again. keep in mind im just 15yrs old and this is just what i think please feel comftorble coming up with your own ..therories.?? i can't spell. but anywho i think this is interesting stuff and i guess we will never know for sure untill our day comes..
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      the reason you see the afterlife only when your dying is obviously it is not happening in your BRAIN, because read up people, the peoples brains are braindead, no blood flowing to it, no oxygen going to it , the brain is shut off completely, so its not happening in your brain , your seeing thru your spirit, your soul .........your spirit/soul is in the afterlife and thats how you are perceiving it

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      That's just it. People who have NDE are officially dead. But I've read or heard that peoples brains have 5-10 minutes of brain activity that still goes on after you're pronounced officially dead. The NDE could be happening during this time.

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      This may seem odd, considering that I am somewhat of a skeptic (you may remember my No, No, No! post ages back, but I have always presumed NDEs to real.

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      Originally posted by existenceisadream
      That's just it. *People who have NDE are officially dead. *But I've read or heard that peoples brains have 5-10 minutes of brain activity that still goes on after you're pronounced officially dead. *The NDE could be happening during this time.
      I take a near death experiance to be something totally diiferant.
      I am not sure in a near death experiance is an offical thing or not. So it could most likey mean many things to differant people. I feel it is just what it says, an experiance. A state of concsiousness that resembles that of being near death.
      I feel with all the input & data your subconscious has collected over the years about death and how it is described, that equalled with intuition can come up with a pretty accurate account of how a particular feeling feels.

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      Oh man, I was thinking about this during my morning commute and came in all pumped up to make a post about it.

      Personally, I am beginning to think that near death experience is nothing but a glorified False Awakening.

      Think about it, during near death, your brain is in a deep, almost coma state, similar to delta sleep. As you are revived, your brainwave frequency increases and passes through an abbreviated REM cycle before regaining conciousness.

      For all of our lives, we are conditioned to think about death in a certain way, the floating up to the ceiling, bright lights, tunnels and so on.

      Is it unreasonable to assume that the brain would create am FA about it as it began to revive?
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      For all of our lives, we are conditioned to think about death in a certain way, the floating up to the ceiling, bright lights, tunnels and so on. *
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      But a natural blind, how can imagine that. He doesnt know what means to see ...lights, tunnels etc.

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      Originally posted by SweetMelancholy
      For all of our lives, we are conditioned to think about death in a certain way, the floating up to the ceiling, bright lights, tunnels and so on.

      But a natural blind, how can imagine that. He doesnt know what means to see ...lights, tunnels etc.[/b]
      Exactly. NDEs with sight have been reported by people who have been blind from birth, thus not even having the neuronal connections required to experience vision in the brain; therefore, they must be experiencing it in the spirit. The brain seems to simply be a way to connect certain portions of the spirit to a physical body (yeah, I know, that sounds crazy).

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