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      Contacting my daughter's guardian angel

      Hi,

      first of all, sorry if there is a jargon mixup here, but "guardian angel" was the best word I came up with.

      Ok, so here's the story. Ever since I was a kid, I think I've had this "guardian angel" that watched over me. I could usually hear his breath as if sitting at the end of my bed at night, and could sometimes feel his presence elsewhere. It was never frightening, but assuring. I've always believed this to be a family member. He even spoke to me once (I think it was him, though), but that's another story. Suffice to say, his existence is pretty certain to me.

      Last year I became a father, and that's when I noticed some things about my daughter. First, she often kicked the blankets off when sleeping, leaving her cold. I noticed that when this happened, a little later the blanket would be over her again, like someone had done it deliberately. The baby couldn't crawl or move much, so it couldn't be her. I tested this on some occasions to be sure that no-one else entered the room.

      Also, when playing with us, she would suddenly smile/laugh/stare at something that wasn't there. Now, that may be typical baby behaviour, however, I don't know.

      I'm pretty sure she has a guardian too. None of these events feel creepy, just natural in a way. However, I'd really like to know who her guardian is (mine too, for that matter).

      Is there any good technique for doing this? Have any of you had similar experiences?

      I'm a novice at lucid dreaming, as much as I find it fascinating I have problems allocating time for it, so if you have any approaches, please give me the "for dummies" version.
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      Hi arh,

      Oh, yes, I remember at age 12 going for a long walk on the beach, and on the way home, feeling such a sense of not really being alone, that I came home and wrote a poem about being alone but not lonely. I think that was my first real awareness, or at least near awareness, that I'm not alone. It wasn't until much later though that things really began to open up for me, when I turned forty, right after that, my dreams changed and got a lot more vivid, and I began to hear my guides and angels, and the more I worked with my dreams, the more I became able to connect with them when awake. The starting place, imo, is to work with your dreams, to start to recognize them there, learn their voices, and the ability to connect grows. I'm not sure what to say regarding your daughter's angels and guides... I have grown children, and they were not at home when I started experiencing all of this so vividly, back in the late 80's. I do sometimes get input from other people's guides, like a flash of gemstone to suggest or an herb that will help. And I sometimes overhear others' guides speaking to my guides, though I always feel as if I'm not sure I was supposed to... LOL! They tease me about my big ears; my personal guide says I am unusually clairaudient.

      When I first started to become aware of all this when my dreams changed and opened up, I simply prayed to the God/dess (your own understanding of the Divine Spirit is fine) to please allow through only my own true guides and angels until I had my footing and knew what I was doing. That, I believe, was one of the smartest things I've done. Once you've expressed an interest and desire, they will work to communicate with you, so you won't have to work too hard, but do try to understand your dreams, and learn to interpret them and read symbol, because they do use symbol to communicate in waking life as well. A single symbol can carry a lot of information, much like a picture can speak a thousand words.

      They are also able to manipulate electronics to a degree that surprised me, and you will begin to see messages in odd places during the day, like on license plates, or in a song that comes on as you randomly click on a radio. Learn to pay attention all around you, and see what you notice! Eavesdrop in the supermarket line. Let it be fun, because they love to have you having fun with it!

      And of course, meditation is a tried and true method as well. I love to really relax when I do meditation, and put on music without words, like Baroque classical, New Age, Native American drumming, etc. I light a plain white candle with a few drops of lavender, as it is relaxing, or if I feel a need for protection, I use some sage. If I'm in the living room in the afternoon when the sun is bright, I wear a sleep mask. I meditate in my recliner, which works fine for me, but purists will want you doing a Buddhist pose on the floor.

      Just relax and try to quiet your mind. That leaves an opening for someone to flash pictures or speak to you. I had a whole conversation during a 45 minutes meditation one day with my angel Ariella, who appeared first in a vision, as an angel who looked Native American, and stood behind an image of me, but she was about seven feet tall! That startled me, but the standing behind was protective. She talked to me about a lot of different things for my life during that meditation. She's a sort of spirit family matriarch for my spirit family.

      My full time guide is Leslie, aka Raven, and I also have a specialist guide named JoAnne who works with herbal and nutritional healing. I have others about me sometimes who I picture as a flock of flying cherubs, who are into positive affirmations and cheering me up and helping with the oddest things, like catching mice and finding things I need on sale for me, or even out on the street, where someone has put things out at the curb after a yard sale is over. I know there are others at times as well, who seemingly are consulted about something. We all have multiple guides and angels working with us. We just don't all know it... YET! I think a time will come not too far in the future when awareness will grow, however. It has been for a long time, but I think it will expand a lot more, to more people.

      I haven't had a baby to observe in my home since all this started, but my dogs, while they don't look at things that aren't there, are very obviously used as messengers a lot. Like first thing yesterday morning, Lily got up, and instead of going to the living room first, led me straight in here, and I realized as she did how strange that was, as she doesn't like my being in here so much, as she's not getting attention. It dawned on me that there was something wanting my attention in my email, and sure enough.. there was! Other animals will be used as messengers too, so watch for odd things animals around you do. Stop and *think* about what it might mean, because if it's out of place and seems odd, it's probably hiding a message.

      I hope that helps!

      First step, dummies version, is the prayer.

      All best...

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      Why jump to 1 conclusion? why not explore other options, and try and prove them? the baby could have woke up and put the blanket on again, and babys always look at other things and laugh or whatever.

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      Quote Originally Posted by LucidFlanders View Post
      Why jump to 1 conclusion? why not explore other options, and try and prove them? the baby could have woke up and put the blanket on again, and babys always look at other things and laugh or whatever.
      Sure, but if she put it on again herself (at the age of 0-2 months), that would have been really awesome too!

      This guardian stuff is something I've had since I was a kid, and over the years the belief has kind of solidified itself due to other experiences. You know, it's all feelings, so whether or not it's "real" would be a pretty hard (and pointless) discussion.

      I don't want this to be a huge part of my life, I'm just curious. So if I end up speaking to a long lost relative, or my subconsciousness believing it is a relative -- it's good healing anyway. Which, when you boil it down, is really the whole point of it all.
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      Arh,
      Iris has may good points and if you're a strong Dreamer, her methods may be very useful.

      If I may offer an alternative though;

      First, practice connecting with your own "guardian angel". Iris' meditation method is very similar to what I practice in Shamanic Journeying. Once you've quieted your mind but remain alert (classic Alpha Wave pattern in brain activity) address the energy of the Guide you've recognized and ask it who it is. You may get a name, you may get a picture, you may get some verse from a song... whatever you get, be open and accepting and I promise it will make more sense to you than just simply being told, "I'm Bob." Ask what their role is in your life. Find out who your other Guides are and ask for an introduction.

      Once you've become comfortable with this process and your Guide has introduced you to others of your Guides, then ask if you may have permission to meet your daughter's Guide(s). They might say no. It's not necessarily for us to know about anyone else's Path. You may get an answer of, "not yet," too. Whatever the answer, don't take it personally. Your child is an entity unto herself with a Path to follow and lessons to learn all her own. Perhaps you will be allowed to see some of them from a Spiritual side. Perhaps not. Again, her Guides are there for her, not you. And you being involved in her Path outside of what a parent normally is, may not be in her ultimate best interest.

      That being said, my children's Guides were always very pleased that I was interested. Kinda like a teacher likes to know that their students are being supported and helped with homework at home by the parents. I knew before either were born who their primary Allies were and we have shared much about our Spiritual Paths with one another.

      I wish you great success.
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      Once you've expressed an interest and desire, they will work to communicate with you, so you won't have to work too hard, but do try to understand your dreams, and learn to interpret them and read symbol, because they do use symbol to communicate in waking life as well. A single symbol can carry a lot of information, much like a picture can speak a thousand words.

      They are also able to manipulate electronics to a degree that surprised me, and you will begin to see messages in odd places during the day, like on license plates, or in a song that comes on as you randomly click on a radio. Learn to pay attention all around you, and see what you notice! Eavesdrop in the supermarket line. Let it be fun, because they love to have you having fun with it!
      This is interesting. I've noticed the same thing, but I haven't noticed the spirit guides themselves, so I referred to this as "messages from the universe". This is a bit long-winded, so I'll adopt the term 'spirit guide(s)' for simplicity. Maybe I'll meet them someday.

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      In my opinion, it would be easier to contact your guardian angels through astral projection rather than lucid dreaming, though I have contacted a guardian spirit through a lucid dream, after meeting him many times on the astral plane.

      In my experience astral projection is more difficult to do than induce a lucid dream, but my awareness is even higher. It's about 9/10 or 10/10 compared to 6/10 or 8/10 in a lucid dream. I have done both. Here are some ideas for you to try that worked for me, but everyone's a little different, so who knows what is best for you.

      Astral projection: Lay down in bed, close your eyes. Think about your angel. Do not go to sleep. Focus on your breath. Relax every muscle in your body. Tell your angel you want to meet her/him. Now, imagine your bed. Think about questions you want to ask your angel. Imagine your room, exactly what it looks like right now. Think about anywhere you want your angel to take you. Imagine yourself laying in bed with your eyes open, and what you see. Now, imagine yourself getting up out of bed. Open your bedroom door. Walk to the front door. Open it. Go outside. Zoom out and imagine your house from a bird's eye view. Look around. What do you see? You are pleasantly floating above your house. Fly up into the sky. Keep flying into outer space. Ask your angel to come meet you. Inhale, and look around you. Look at your angel, and ask it your questions. Ask it to take you where you want it to take you. Afterward, thank your angel.

      Think of yourself being in your room, lying in bed. Take a deep breath. You are in your body. Open your eyes.

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      This about your angel during the day. As you go to sleep, think about your angel. The second you lie in bed, think about your angel, and all the times you felt your angel's presence most strongly. Imagine what your angel looks like. Imagine its face. Imagine the light coming out of it. Imagine its emotion. Imagine its intention. What does it look like? Ask your angel questions. The more questions you can ask the better, but keep them simple and easy for you to remember. This way, you'll be focused on the image of your angel long enough to drift straight into sleep.
      ya gwan fok wid de Baron? ye gotta nodda ting comin. (Formerly known as Baking Nomad.)

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      My mother has told me stories of when I was a baby. My father died just shortly before I was born. She says when I was a baby I used to look up at something she couldn't see and smile and laugh as if there was someone there. She says I also used to entertain myself alone much longer than most infants. She believes it was my father coming back to watch over me and that he was keeping me occupied. Had you lost someone close to you recently before this guardian came? They probably didn't go as far away as it seemed.

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      Methinks you're making this way too complicated! My main guide, Leslie, says it's as if he's riding piggyback. He's never not right here with me! I don't have to leave my body, go anywhere, summon him, nothing like that. If you've never seen "Being John Malkovich", go rent it and see it. See how the people's consciousness rides with John Malkovich, in his body; guides do that same thing. If I need to talk to another guide or angel, then Leslie is the go-between, really, bringing them to me. You don't need to go anywhere out of your body to connect with your spirit guides. I'm not convinced that's a literal experience, anyway. I know I was with my mother in Florida holding her hand when she died (I am over a thousand miles away, in Connecticut), but I don't think I actually went anywhere, because I think in the spiritual realm, distance doesn't matter any more than time does. The spiritual realms are not obligated to meet scientific understanding... they're different! Quite often, I don't think this world is either, really, but that it's only there to give us limitations that we can grow in, boundaries that keep us safe. Leslie is nodding my head... LOL... he does that when what I've said is reasonable in his eyes! Also, you'll probably get clearer answers if you ask one question at a time, something that matters to you emotionally.

      Quote Originally Posted by WakingNomad View Post
      In my opinion, it would be easier to contact your guardian angels through astral projection rather than lucid dreaming, though I have contacted a guardian spirit through a lucid dream, after meeting him many times on the astral plane.

      In my experience astral projection is more difficult to do than induce a lucid dream, but my awareness is even higher. It's about 9/10 or 10/10 compared to 6/10 or 8/10 in a lucid dream. I have done both. Here are some ideas for you to try that worked for me, but everyone's a little different, so who knows what is best for you.

      Astral projection: Lay down in bed, close your eyes. Think about your angel. Do not go to sleep. Focus on your breath. Relax every muscle in your body. Tell your angel you want to meet her/him. Now, imagine your bed. Think about questions you want to ask your angel. Imagine your room, exactly what it looks like right now. Think about anywhere you want your angel to take you. Imagine yourself laying in bed with your eyes open, and what you see. Now, imagine yourself getting up out of bed. Open your bedroom door. Walk to the front door. Open it. Go outside. Zoom out and imagine your house from a bird's eye view. Look around. What do you see? You are pleasantly floating above your house. Fly up into the sky. Keep flying into outer space. Ask your angel to come meet you. Inhale, and look around you. Look at your angel, and ask it your questions. Ask it to take you where you want it to take you. Afterward, thank your angel.

      Think of yourself being in your room, lying in bed. Take a deep breath. You are in your body. Open your eyes.

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      This about your angel during the day. As you go to sleep, think about your angel. The second you lie in bed, think about your angel, and all the times you felt your angel's presence most strongly. Imagine what your angel looks like. Imagine its face. Imagine the light coming out of it. Imagine its emotion. Imagine its intention. What does it look like? Ask your angel questions. The more questions you can ask the better, but keep them simple and easy for you to remember. This way, you'll be focused on the image of your angel long enough to drift straight into sleep.

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      I actually do believe my spirit guides are right here, and not in the cosmos. But, when I astral project to contact them, it's because there are too many distractions elsewhere. It's like going into a quiet room to have a conversation. What could be more private and quiet than space. Also, at the time I was asking my guides to take me places, sometimes on earth, on which case it was easier to fly out, and see the globe first, then fly back in. If I wanted to visit another planet, it was easier to start in space also. Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks.

      I love Being John Malkovich!

      Quote Originally Posted by IrisRavenstar View Post
      Methinks you're making this way too complicated! My main guide, Leslie, says it's as if he's riding piggyback. He's never not right here with me! I don't have to leave my body, go anywhere, summon him, nothing like that. If you've never seen "Being John Malkovich", go rent it and see it. See how the people's consciousness rides with John Malkovich, in his body; guides do that same thing. If I need to talk to another guide or angel, then Leslie is the go-between, really, bringing them to me. You don't need to go anywhere out of your body to connect with your spirit guides. I'm not convinced that's a literal experience, anyway. I know I was with my mother in Florida holding her hand when she died (I am over a thousand miles away, in Connecticut), but I don't think I actually went anywhere, because I think in the spiritual realm, distance doesn't matter any more than time does. The spiritual realms are not obligated to meet scientific understanding... they're different! Quite often, I don't think this world is either, really, but that it's only there to give us limitations that we can grow in, boundaries that keep us safe. Leslie is nodding my head... LOL... he does that when what I've said is reasonable in his eyes! Also, you'll probably get clearer answers if you ask one question at a time, something that matters to you emotionally.
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      Quote Originally Posted by IrisRavenstar View Post
      Leslie is nodding my head... LOL... he does that when what I've said is reasonable in his eyes!
      How funny... I was nodding my head when I read that. I like Leslie.
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      Quote Originally Posted by WakingNomad View Post
      I actually do believe my spirit guides are right here, and not in the cosmos. But, when I astral project to contact them, it's because there are too many distractions elsewhere. It's like going into a quiet room to have a conversation. What could be more private and quiet than space. Also, at the time I was asking my guides to take me places, sometimes on earth, on which case it was easier to fly out, and see the globe first, then fly back in. If I wanted to visit another planet, it was easier to start in space also. Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks.

      I love Being John Malkovich!
      Soooo... what happened on these other planets? Anything going on more than landing on a big rock floating in space? I'm a homebody, who mostly finds sufficient quiet right here, actually, except when Lily feels she has to bark at something in the street, anything in the street, really, car, people, dogs, squirrels; sometimes outside, she even barks at ants, which is kind of hysterical. But when I meditate, I put on relaxing music, and you know, it also soothes the savage beast, no matter how tiny it may be, so she lays in my recliner with me, or under it, until I'm done.

      It was a good movie!

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      Quote Originally Posted by saxonharp View Post
      How funny... I was nodding my head when I read that. I like Leslie.
      LOLOL! I like him too! I'm not sure how I got through life, really, prior to becoming conscious of his presence and accessibility!

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      Quote Originally Posted by IrisRavenstar View Post
      LOLOL! I like him too! I'm not sure how I got through life, really, prior to becoming conscious of his presence and accessibility!
      Is the air you breathe any more accessible to you when you know what it is or how your lungs work?

      Our Guides are pretty much the same, IMHO. They protect us, nurture us and direct us whether we know it or not; whether we ask for it or not; whether we seek it or not. It's their job.

      'Course that doesn't make it any LESS amazing when you ARE concious of them.
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