Thread: OBE/Astral Projection through a Dream?

It is possible to OBE while lucid, but I'd never heard that you have to go through a door or wall or something. It's all a matter of control. If using a door or another visual aid helps, then go for it. I used to use mirrors as my aid, but doors/windows/walls and such work too.

If you want to OBE while awake, it takes a lot of concentration and can be very taxing on your energies. OBEing while in dream is the preferred method, in my opinion, so I would suggest starting that way. Before you do that, though, get more comfortable with LDing. LDing and OBEing are very similar in some respects and you would benefit greatly from LDing before you try to OBE.

If you go OBE -- Use caution! hurt yourself while OBE.

Hope I made some sense and helped.

Originally posted by A Lost Soul


If you go OBE -- Use caution! hurt yourself while OBE.

Hope I made some sense and helped.

This is true to a certain degree, but remember the same laws that govern that of LDing applys to OBE's you can overcome causing pain on oneselves by keeping your energy at bay. I found out it doesn't take that much energy to initate OBE's instead try to keep your energy at a certain state before entering then you don't have to exhaust so much of it during OBE's you can maintain it and only go higher if you need to without exhausting out your mininum resources for obtaining it in the first place. The best way is to go during LD's like lost soul mentioned this way your energy is already secure enough for a substantial supply for later use.

Lately, i have been doubting alot about OBEs..as I think most OBEs are actually just LDs..and LDs are just astral projection..

The opinions are divived I think..especially among those who into (whatever part) of occultism..

Some say, and I think it makes sense..that OBEs, astral projection and lucid dreams are actually one and the same..
Astral Projection is actually the same as LDing..some occultists say this is not the case, I do. And I think and OBE is a LD aswell..
Think about it, inducing a OBE is almost like inducing a WILD..only when your body is paralyzed you unleash your astral body..so an OBE is the same as an astral projection, but while you think you are out of body, you are actually in the astral plane, projecting.
Now it are just diffirent terms for one and the same thing:

Astral Projection: Used in occultism
OBE: Used in parapsycology
Lucid Dream: Used in (dream)psycology

Now like I said, the opinions are divived but I, and other occultist say, it is all the same. It does not matter what you call it, in all cases you are projecting into the astral plane(the second reality) , wheter you are projecting trough a dream, or you instantly leave your Physical body leaving in your astral body.
Now, does anybody have solid proof that when they OBE they are in fact still in the Physical Plane? Because I think you are in fact in the astral plane.

I myself left my body many times trough meditation, but this is just somesort of WILD which leaves me in the astral plane.

A stronge heed of caution to any who OBE

I posted the trick about running into a wall, that I learned from another forum on OBE. It works. I have done it twice. There is nothing special about the wall. I belief that when I focus on the impact with the wall it brings attention to my physical body, inducing the OBE.

As for lucius' comments, I bleieve that OBEs and lucid dreams are different, since I have experienced both. Both are astral projections, meaning that you are traveling to another reality/dimentsion/energy plane, but they are different. In an OBE in the realtime dimension, you travel to an energy copy of the physical world. You can read the license plate of the car parked across the street, read your alarm clock, and then confirm when you awake. In a lucid dream, it's in your head ans those things get made.


I'm not proficient yet at inducing OBEs but I will post more experiences as they come up.

I am HIGHLY interesting in trying OBE...once I get better at LDing... tell me...what is it I should be so cautious about..

I've been crashing though matter a lot lately in my LD's, but have not experienced an OBE.

Is it a matter of intention and will? If I BELIEVE that an OBE will result in going through a wall, will it?

Dream Master,

Whenever I am astral projecting during the day trough meditation I do "leave my body". But I am positive I am in the astral plane and not in the physical plane. I never tried reading anything I never do really but I can see im in the astral because I am in the form of my inner self and I can visit spirits from the astral, use all the powers I posses in the astral etc etc..thats the weird thing, mabey Im simply doing something wrong or something, then Im not really intereste in having a real OBE i gues..the astral plane is much more interesting for me then floating around on the physical plane..

I also want to know whats to be so cautious about when having an OBE. I mean Im not going to go and get a knife and stab myself to see if I bleed if thats what you mean. Can you give an example?

Supposedly some part of your brain keeps you paralyzed while your brain

wonders. however you can never be sure of what are you doing now -

this defense mechanism may fail, and you may sleepwalk, or your

muscles may just convulse...

This is how i see it.

When you OBE, you can be hurt. You can meet other beings that can hurt you. You can get stuck somewhere. Not to mention, you are dabbling in powers that you don't (and may never) understand. There are risks that come along with that.

Remember, an OBE is just that -- Out of Body Experience. Your spirit, your essense, your soul or whatever, is leaving your body behind to frolick elsewhere. You can't take something like that lightly.

But I can't tell you what to do. Maybe I should have stayed quiet.

*whimper* you can get stuck? how? will you DIE?!

I guess you will be scared shitless, but you will not die...
It's more like bad trip...maybe... just inferring...

Doesnt matter how you belive it, you will come back...maybe i'm wrong...
I surely dont want to be the first to find out you can die out there... that's scary...


Dont mind my periods - remember the guy's rule - if he says/posts 3 this means 1.

I think, for the matter, astral projection as in lucid dreaming astral projection can be dangerous aswell. But im not going to say anything because nobody beliefs jack shit of what IM saying. I wonder why people belief in OBEs but not in the astral plane as a actual existing second reality.

Lost sould is correct there are some serious dangers in regards to OBE's When you enter that other plane in certain cases things will happen I had an incident when I was like 12 or 13 and I had an OBE and I was looking at the wall and there were 3 Black Crosses on the wall in my bedroom that was never there before. I didn't think anything of it I was doing my usual checking out my surrondings while floating around the room. Then some Voice called my name and said BEWARE and something Grabbed me I swear or Grabbed my Spirit and whatever it was, was pulling me down, at an extremely fast rate and I couldn't breath the entire time as if someone was holding my nostrols together the only reason why I was able to come out of it was because My Mother walked past my room and saw me shaking wildly in my bed and thought I was having a Nightmare and decided to tug on me to wake me up.

But I haven't had that happen to me since anyway I just get out when I feel uneasy. Best Prevention Method.

WHOA , I think I'll practice more with LD'ing then.

Yeah I think I may take Lucius point on this matter. I mean I've had plenty of OBE's but there is always something misconstrude about the room setting for instance I believe subconsiously your mind dipicts your surroundings almost flawlessly but there is always something that's either missing or should not be. If you look hard enough you will find somethings not right. So I don't think you're really projecting yourself through the phyiscal plane but some other reality that Im not sure of.

There is one more danger to OBEing. Im not sure if anyone has mentioned it here yet, but im beginning to wonder if you can possess others that are sleeping while in astral form. And worse, if others can possess you while your body remains an empty vessel....

*GASP*

Its ZIM!

On-topic:Sounds dangerous....

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astro planning is nothing to mess around with, never go though a door if its an entrance its fine, but a door can close. you can get stuck and put your physical body in a comma

beleive me or not but dreaming is not far from the same spiritual existance of astro planning aka channeling. if you do not know what you are doing i suggest you do not astro plane. your mind can become seperated from your body.

it is true that stonger spirits than yourself can take over your body.

if you wish to try astro planning i suggest you pvt message me and i can explain how, but do not try it whilst you are metally tired or in a lucid dream you do not have the same control.

the voice you heard was that of your guide(good spirt) and he/she was holding your nostrils closed, your soul was being pulled out by a rouge(bad spirit) your soul can only be removed though an orifis in you body, i bet your jaw was clamped and you couldnt hear either.

Originally posted by Necrit3
astro planning is nothing to mess around with, never go though a door if its an entrance its fine, but a door can close. you can get stuck and put your physical body in a comma

beleive me or not but dreaming is not far from the same spiritual existance of astro planning aka channeling. *if you do not know what you are doing i suggest you do not astro plane. your mind can become seperated from your body.

it is true that stonger spirits than yourself can take over your body.

if you wish to try astro planning i suggest you pvt message me and i can explain how, but do not try it whilst you are metally tired or in a lucid dream you do not have the same control.

the voice you heard was that of your guide(good spirt) and he/she was holding your nostrils closed, your soul was being pulled out by a rouge(bad spirit) your soul can only be removed though an orifis in you body, i bet your jaw was clamped and you couldnt hear either.

you're scary

yea that kinda freaked me out a bit, but DAMN, do you know how old this topic is? it was made in like january. Anyway im not going to do OBE untill i'm a little bit better at lucid dreaming