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      Spirituality in my eyes. part 1 open mind vs closed mind.

      Ok so well first off, this is my perspective. Ive had many experiences that has aided me in thinking this way. Ive done countless numbers of readings and talking to people, and people that can be credited, my professors in philosophy and sociology, theripests, religous people in all sorts (from chrisitanity to budhism to satinists). So before you think that i dont know what i am talking about. i do haha. So take what you want, and leave what you want.

      Oh and sorry if any of the topics im going to talk about has been coverd before.

      Well ok lets begin.

      In this thread i would like to talk about an open mind vs a closed mind, and the between.

      What do you think of when you hear the term open minded? Is it some crazy drugged person who claims that he has been abducted by ufo's, the government is one big conspiracy? Or is it that you have to believe in everything? Well thats not what having an opened mind is at all.

      An open mind is someone that knows that well, anything is possible. You dont necessarily have to believe in ghosts, aliens, god, or special powers to be open minded. Having an open mind, is just knowing that well ghosts can exist, who am i to say they cant? Sure it is possible that there is another form of life somewhere out in the universe. God? Yeah sure he can exist, and heaven as well. Can people claim to be psychic? Read minds? throw objects around the room? Sure why not?

      Now even if you do agree that all of the above is possible, and are like ok so im open minded, now what? Now before you jump to conclusions, just because you agree that anything is possible, or can be possible. You got to acknowledge that they as well cant be as well. Now this might be confusing, and well it is.

      Being open minded consist of more then just agreeing and knowing that the impossible are possible, you must also know that the possible is impossible. And at the same time I know, this might be hard to grasp by i will go further. Sure you might think that aliens could exist, but well you must also see the other side, and that is that they might not exist. Sure there might be god and heaven, but well it is just as possible for us to just rot in the ground as well. Yea sure, people can have special powers, but well they could just be 'crazy'.

      Is this making more sense? In order to be open minded, you must be able to adept, learn and know that everything is possible, and that everything that is possible could be impossible. Sure we all could be unique and in our own way, and that everything matters. Or what if nothing really exists and were just a random thought or what if this is just one big dream? Can you prove either?

      Now we have an open mind out of the way, lets talk about a closed mind. Now to some of you this might seem like an open mind, but well... its not.

      God exists and were all either going to heaven, hell, or wonder the world as a spirit until we go to the correct place. Closed minded. But wait? God, heaven and hell exists, as well as spirits? Sounds pretty open minded to me, WRONG. Just because you believe in something unexplainable, it doesnt make you open minded, you have to be able to see all sides of a topic. If you talk to a pure christian, they will say that Jesus, god, and Satan are the only gods that exist. What about all the other gods that other religions believe in? Are they fake? or not real? If you hear a christian say that there only one god, well he is being closed minded.

      So to make it simple, being closed minded is only seeing one side of a topic, or maybe just not the whole side of a topic. For there can be many sides to a topic, and not seeing all of them, is closed minded.

      Pssssh aliens ? Really come on. You really think that there are other life forms that have technology that we cant even begin to think of? Closed minded.

      Now we have open minded and closed minded explained, there is a between. And well this between could be anything that doesnt fall in the open or closed mind slot. Which is not a lot. Maybe someone that says they believe that aliens could exist, but they do not. Confusion is the big factor here, and you can really stop people and make them think if you really wanted to

      So are you open minded or closed minded?

      Now this is part one, and well its kind of explanatory i know, but well i have to hit all subjects that fall into spirituality. Next topic im going to talk about is mindset, and how mindset is key to life.

      Comments appreciated, good or bad. Again this is only my perspective.

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      I consider myself open minded, but for more reasons than you have stated. Being open minded means "being receptive to new and different ideas or the opinions of others" You seem to be confident that open minded means that
      anything is possible
      , and I'm not disputing that claim. But, open minded could also refer to being tolerant of other cultures and lifestyles. I'm not sure you have to learn and know that everything is possible, but accepting it would be considered having an open mind.
      you must also know that the possible is impossible
      How is something possible at the same time impossible? It's either or. Did you mean possibility or impossibility?
      If you hear a christian say that there only one god, well he is being closed-minded.
      Here I wouldn't go as far to say that the person is closed-minded, just because someone believes in one god doesn't mean he is not receptive or disputing other religious beliefs. I don't believe in the concept of Christianity, but I'm not doubting that it could be true. Religion is tricky with open/closed mindedness.

      I'm sure you know what you're talking about, but the post doesn't reflect it, there is more to being open/closed minded than theology and aliens.

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      Thanks for your opinion!. this world/life in general is a crazy thing.

      I understand how what i said could be taking that you must think that everything is possible in order to be open mind. And yes i did try to emphasize that as well. But i also stated that one must be able to adapt, and learn that anything is possible. And well i other cultures and lifestyle applies in there as well. In some countries it is illeagle to kill cows. But in ours its not. Some think it wold be crazy to not eat cow, but well the other contries do not. Same with eskimos and them killing there elders/new born babys? inhumane maybe, there life style definity.

      What i ment by impossible and possible is that, well we could not even exist, or only i exist, or only you exist or we all exist. And what is existing mean to you?

      Sure it means that they are closed minded, ive talked to people (one yesturday) and they stated that no other god is real. Jesus is the only savior and lord. How is that not closed minded?

      When part 2 comes out, maybe these concepts will make more sense, i know its vague right now, and i kind of meant it to be, to arise your guys thoughts more. And i hope i did.

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      Quote Originally Posted by C-Fonz View Post
      How is something possible at the same time impossible? It's either or.
      I think he means, "anything we can think of may be possible, but many of these things are also likely not to be true (hence, impossible)." It would then depend on evidence to show what is and what is not possible. But what evidence really is, is yet another whole new topic, lol.
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      Open minded means willing to listen to another person's point of view and arguments and give them serious consideration.
      It does NOT mean that you have to accept or acknowledge those other viewpoints as valid if they do not make sense or are erroneous.
      The problem is that far too many people seem to think that if you disagree with them, then you are not open minded.
      That is not true. You are close minded if you refuse to listen to their opinions and arguments at all.
      The hidden message is they're asking people to be more tolerant.I would be close minded if I refused to listen to or consider an atheist's arguments simply because they are an atheist.I am open minded if I listen to their opinions and arguments and consider them, even though I may not accept them.
      Listening to others' ideas may not be easy, but it could be an valuable way to learn something new or change your perspective on life.

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      Maybe this will help:

      after listening to ones argument, ask yourself if you can say this.

      "I see what you are saying, and i know what you mean. But.." (inserst your theory here)

      See your not denying there point, in fact your showing them that you can see where they are coming from. Open minded.

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