Death

[freemind]

What are your guys/gals views on death? Im pretty sure that there has to be more to life then just being born and dying. I think that our "souls" or whatever you wanna call your true self slips into the 5th dimension just as it does when we sleep and continues on lifes path.

[bradybaker]

Preposterous.

[freemind]

explain

[bradybaker]

Why does there have to be more to life than being born and dying?

[myfreakish_nature]

What are your guys/gals views on death? Im pretty sure that there has to be more to life then just being born and dying. I think that our "souls" or whatever you wanna call your true self Originally posted by freemind slips into the 5th dimension. just as it does when we sleep and continues on lifes path

[myfreakish_nature]

Originally posted by freemind slips into the 5th dimension just as it does when we sleep and continues on lifes path. i agree. but one question--what is the 4th dimension then?

[TygrHawk]

The 4th dimension is time -- at least by most accounts.

[freemind]

Originally posted by TygrHawk The 4th dimension is time -- at least by most accounts. yep

[Belisarius]

I think the consciousness probably goes on(I have no clue what becomes of it), but the mind and body are probably forever lost to time. Random things may flash before the consciousness, or maybe a new organization would appear before us. Of course this is all just speculation, but I don't believe that things just stop.

[bradybaker]

What is so wrong with the idea of things "just stopping"?

[Kaniaz]

Originally posted by bradybaker What is so wrong with the idea of things \"just stopping\"? In my opinon, nothing. I think you could go out today and get hit by a car and die, even though it was completely not your fault and you donate $1,000 to charities every month, and you will just die. Bam, everything just stops. No afterlife, no whatever, because we are just a sort of product of evolution, not something plopped here by god (in my opinon).

[TygrHawk]

Originally posted by bradybaker What is so wrong with the idea of things \"just stopping\"? I think that most people don't want to believe that's the case, because they are terrified (or perhaps just unhappy) to think that one day they will simply cease to exist. Personally, I'm undecided. I tend to lean toward the reincarnation theory (probably wishful thinking), but I guess I just don't have enough faith to believe in something 100% when there's no proof.

[Howie]

Maybe it is our last false awekening!? The 4th dimension

[Arcadia]

Anyone who thinks there isnt an afterlife is stuck on the idea that everything is just rock and fungus,and must be very narrow minded.

[TygrHawk]

So you won't accept the possibility that there is no afterlife? That sounds rather narrow-minded to me.

[Arcadia]

well personally i know there is life after death and giving that there was absolutely no proof then yes you would have to accept that possibility,but there is, and i think theres too much wierd stuff goes on to even take it into account really. And if you havent noticed any of this then you must be amazingly narrow minded,and please dont start asking wheres the proof etc.

[Howie]

Originally posted by Arcadia Anyone who thinks there isnt an afterlife is stuck on the idea that everything is just rock and fungus,and must be very narrow minded. It could also be considered presumptuous that the Universe revolvles around us. To think that there is no afterlife doesn't mean you do not think that other things cease to exist after you are gone. I find that most religious people are more narrow minded than most myself.

[Kaniaz]

Originally posted by Arcadia Anyone who thinks there isnt an afterlife is stuck on the idea that everything is just rock and fungus,and must be very narrow minded. God, I hate it when this happens. Because we don't think there is an afterlife, we are closed-minded, etc etc and all the other glossy terms that keep coming up in discussions. However, because you think there's an afterlife, that is on the other end of the scale and very open-minded and all-around-clever, even though at the end of the day we both have pretty much the same evidence to what we think (ie: not an awful lot. Have you died recently?)

[LucidDreamGod]

My opinion on Death is that there are 7 dimensions we have a body for each one 1st A dark and very unhappy lonely place where souls go until they decide to be a good person and move up to The 2nd dimention 2nd A place very much like earth but still dark and lonley. (Ghosts come from hear). 3rd The next realm up is the physical dimention we live here. It is probably more of a dark dimention than a light one not because of us but because of all the dangers here and diseases 4th the astral realm we skip this dimention during death and move onto the 5th but you visit it when you sleep 5th a heavenly peaceful dimension If your a good person when you die in the physical world you will go here next 6th a beautiful land filled with music and light if you die in the 5th dimention as a realy good person you will go here. or were realy good in the 3rd dimention you might skip to the 6th 7th the final dimention and the throne of God. The ultimate reality is this one. Called the 7th heaven it is where a person like Jesus would go. are mission is to all go here. It is like school you pass fail or skip or move back a grade. Each dimention is a grade and we are like kids and where all in the same grade.

[Crucible]

Hah... I always laugh when people say there is no afterlife. To each his own I guess.

[Howie]

Originally posted by Arcadia well personally i know there is life after death and giving that there was absolutely no proof then yes you would have to accept that possibility,but there is, and i think theres too much wierd stuff goes on to even take it into account really. And if you havent noticed any of this then you must be amazingly narrow minded,and please dont start asking wheres the proof etc. Well I hate to say this but if I KNOW somthing, I can proove it. So I don't think it is unfair to ask WHERES THE PROOF ETC.?

[bradybaker]

Originally posted by Arcadia+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Arcadia)</div> Anyone who thinks there isnt an afterlife is stuck on the idea that everything is just rock and fungus,and must be very narrow minded.[/b] <!--QuoteBegin-Crucible Hah... I always laugh when people say there is no afterlife. To each his own I guess. You and me are made of the same shit that makes up rocks and fungus. We're mostly carbon, hydrogen and oxygen, with a bunch of other elements thrown in there for good measure. Guess what else is mostly carbon, hydrogen and oxygen? Trees and dirt. Do trees and dirt have an afterlife? You are not special, you are not a beautiful and unique snowflake, you are the same decaying organic matter as everything else on this worthless lump of rock we call Planet Earth. To assume that the universe was put here for us and us alone is complete and utter nonsense. It is the height of ignorance and conceit. Do I accept the possibility that God exists? Yes. Do I accept the possibility that there is an afterlife? Yes. But I find the idea so outrageously moronic that I am prepared to burn in hell for all eternity if I am wrong.

[freemind]

You and me are made of the same shit that makes up rocks and fungus. We're mostly carbon, hydrogen and oxygen, with a bunch of other elements thrown in there for good measure. Guess what else is mostly carbon, hydrogen and oxygen? Trees and dirt. Do trees and dirt have an afterlife? [/b] Do trees and dirt have a conscious mind? There is a big differnce between life and a rock....

[Howie]

Originally posted by freemind Do trees and dirt have a conscious mind? There is a big differnce between life and a rock.... I don't know? I have seen some people that could make a good argument against that. /clears the air joke - haha

[freemind]

Originally posted by TygrHawk+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TygrHawk)</div> <!--QuoteBegin-bradybaker What is so wrong with the idea of things \"just stopping\"? I think that most people don't want to believe that's the case, because they are terrified (or perhaps just unhappy) to think that one day they will simply cease to exist. [/b] Im not terrified nor afrade to die and I still beleave in consciousness after death. And why im really rambling on about this is because I think that death has alot to do with dreaming in a sort...