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      Getting the hang of Lucids, Need help with Dream Control?

      I've had at least 2 Lucids the past couple days and I'm getting then hang of stabilizing the dream and keeping calm, etc. I have interacted with some dream characters and they seem to be leaving me alone lately. Here is my problem. I am having some trouble with dream control. Like changing a dreamscene to a different location, using super powers and stuff like that. Last time I tried using a Kamehameha in my lucid and all I felt was energy. And in my other one I picked up a Japanese fan and I was holding it and trying to change the object into a Katana. Here is my main issue, How can I get better at dream control? I'm having difficulties and I can't seem to keep having my lucids last longer either. If anyone could help me I would be appreciated.

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      Dream Stabilization and Clarity Tutorial - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

      Other than that, the best way to find techniques which work for you is to experiment. We can all sit here and tell you the best methods for US, but just follow the principle of using your senses and keeping cool and try them out for yourself.
      Good luck!

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      #1 most important factor in using superpowers is belief/expectation. If you try to do something and doubt that it will work, it won't. When you are about to try something, stabilize, and remind yourself, this is a dream, I can do anything, this WILL work. Then envision what you want to happen with full confidence that it will happen. Don't even consider that it won't work. That's not even a possibility.

      This can often be easier said than done, but it's extremely important.
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      Trying to get things to change right in front of your eyes is more difficult than having them change while you are not looking. For instance changing that fan into a katana may not work (though it is of course possible if you have no doubts,) but placing it down, facing away, and then turning back expecting to see a katana may be easier at first. Same for landscapes. Just willing the entire landscape to change could be difficult (though as I said, possible - I've moved mountains before) however If you look for doorways, corners, or stairs leading to unknown areas, you can hold an idea in your mind before you enter, and once you do a similar themed landscape should appear.

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      Put youself in a situaution where you HAVE to fly, kamehameha, ect. I never flew before a few days ago and I just jumped super high. I started to fall and I had no choice really except to fly lol.


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      Ok. FEEL. to do a kamehamaha, picture how it would feel. every aspect of it. the energy charging, building up in your hands, flowing into a sphere, and feel the shock of lauching it. to fly... well, i only know how to grow wings: FEEL that mutagenic blood coursing through your veins. FEEL those wings growing from wherever you want them. FEEL the new bones, muscles, and skin/scales growing. then believe they can support you. it's the same principle for almost all other forms. transmutation, funnel energy into whatever you want to morph.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Puffin View Post
      Dream Control Tactics

      Anything is possible in a dream. What you've seen in movies, real life situations, and even your own fantastical, imaginative stories can come to life in a dream. All you need is the certainty that what you want to happen will happen.

      What I've learned about dream control is that it's all about being 100% sure, and expecting an outcome. Visualization is also very important, especially for those dream control scenarios where you want something to be as specific as possible.
      Try these basic dream control tasks if you're stuck on something to do in your next lucid.
      1. You're standing somewhere. Turn around and look behind you, fully believing a relative to be behind you. As you turn around, visualize what they will look like - how tall they will be, what they may be wearing... You can make up a situation that will explain why they'd be behind you, too. For instance, you could expect your brother to be there and say, "stop following me" in an exasperated tone.
      2. Using the same idea, summon a plate with cake on it or another object. Know that it'll be there and imagine what it will look like. What color will the cake be, and what about the icing? Does it fill the plate or is it a small piece? If it helps, pretend someone left it there for you - it'll help make the situation more realistic and the dream may respond more appropriately.
      3. Superpowers. Many people want to try lifting a car or flying, but they don't know how. Use the same approach as above - if you want to punch through a wall, you could always know fully that you've had superpowers since you were born. Think this in the back of your mind and act as if it's completely natural to you. Don't doubt anything.
      More tips on control

      You can try daydreaming or visualizing something that you want to do in your next lucid, during the day. The more grounded the image becomes in your mind, the easier it'll be for it to happen in your dream.

      Don't make a big deal out of dream control; just act passively when you attempt to do something. Try not to "psych yourself up" for an activity, because there's nothing to really get psyched up for - if you treat dream control as some feat that has to be accomplished, it will be harder for you. So relax and enjoy the dream!
      Quoted from Puffin's Post.

      That might be of help.
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      You can always join my Dream Control Class. I will start posting up Dream Control tutorials within the next week anyone is welcome to read. Good luck!

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      ashraen is right; confidence is key. You have to fully expect that you will be successful in what you try. If you don't succeed on the first attempt, just remind yourself that you are dreaming and you can do anything you want, and then DO IT! Once I got that part down, flying, sex, teleporting, morphing, world building, etc. were no problem for me. It took a while for me to get there. I was trying to create a beach scene with a lighthouse, and I wanted the lighthouse to be white, but it appeared in my mind as red/white striped. I tried everything I could to change the color...painting it, peeling off the stripes, wrapping it up, but nothing seemed to work. I couldn't just *POOF* it's white! I worked on that stupid thing for what felt like hours. When I FINALLY made the lighthouse white, I knew it was possible to have control and every aspect of my lucid dreaming improved. Oh, and the lighthouse is still a part of the dream world I built. It's where I go to have sex with Joseph Gordon Levitt. That may have been TMI.

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      For me, failed dream control is often due to an inability to visualize the object. Like the OP I've tried stuff like a kamehameha (DBZ type superpower), and it has worked, but only as an invisible force. I still have yet to be able to perform one. I think its mostly due to the fact I have no idea how it would look in real life. Its a cartoon, and I don't have a good idea about the detail. Thanks to LucasFilm's great computer graphics though, things like force lightning aren't a problem.

      So, my conclusion is that you can't make something appear if you don't know what it will look like... and I think it has to be a pretty detailed memory or image in your head. The same thing would apply to a katana, or any other weapon... If your mind lacks the detail it needs (maybe you've never seen a katana in person?), then it might be very difficult to get it. Maybe there are people that can still pull this off, but that might be a very high level skill. If you haven't had much experience, I'd try starting with things you have intimate details of.

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