Thread: Can you make things that dont excist in the real world?

I would have to say that if you can imagine it in your mind, then you can do it in a lucid dream.

Of course.

Originally posted by anitawee
Can you make a location that youve never seen before eg walking on mars and meet people who you dont no? Also can u look in mirrors on LD?

Yes, this is very common. Also, looking in mirrors is possible in LD's, but the reflection is often (but not always) altered in some way. I've only ever looked in a mirror once in an LD, and although my reflection was fine, it showed me standing in a different spot in the room than where I was actually standing...

I've never tried looking in a mirror in an LD... they terrify me for some reason... but I've been to loads of other planets and galaxies.

Yes, you can do nearly anything you want in a Lucid Dream. The key is you need to believe that you can, "Believe and you shall recieve!" As for mirrors, yes you can look into them. The results are different for everyone, but when I looked into one my face was gross and covered in zits. Don't let that scare you though, I've heard some funny dream-mirror stories.

HI anitawee

If you can imagine it you can create it!
But we would never really know if it did not exist in the real world would we?

[quote]HI anitawee

If you can imagine it you can create it!
But we would never really know if it did not exist in the real world would we?

Precisely.

there is an old philosophical puzzle where one must try to create a 'creature' without using parts from any animals and creating a chimera. it is obviously impossible because such abstract things as 'legs', 'head', 'eyes', etc are what define animals.

i think the same principle applies. we can cut and paste and edit, but it is hard to fathom creating any new 'basic components' in a lucid. there are infinite possibilities for combination and imagination though.

'thing' is a trippy word. its basic definition is moreorless 'matter'. possessing mass. ex-isting in the ex-ternal world. any-thing is able to be created in lucids.

except a shapeless, formless, thing.

Originally posted by Asher
'thing' is a trippy word. its basic definition is moreorless 'matter'. possessing mass. ex-isting in the ex-ternal world. any-thing is able to be created in lucids.

except a shapeless, formless, thing.

Well... happiness is a thing. Religion is a thing. Violence is a thing. None of these things are composed of matter, nor do they possess mass, yet any of these can be invoked in a dream.

I agree completely with the rest of your post, though.

What I'm interested in is if you can make things like square circles while controlling dreams? Normally, in waking life it's impossible.

Originally posted by DuB

Well... happiness is a thing. Religion is a thing. Violence is a thing. None of these things are composed of matter, nor do they possess mass, yet any of these can be invoked in a dream.

I agree completely with the rest of your post, though.

religion, violence, and happiness can not exist in a dream without things to manifest them. those three 'things' are 'concepts" to me. both 'things' and 'concepts' exist in dynamic,symbiotic interaction.

i subjectively separate material things (possessing atomic mass, tangible) from concepts (value judgements, labels, classifications, measurements) which human consciousness laces things with.

a sword is 'dangerous'. i would call danger a 'concept', not a 'thing'. yet without a sword or other potentially harmful implements, the concept of danger could not exist.

semantics really. i know what you mean

Originally posted by BenignThinker
What I'm interested in is if you can make things like square circles while controlling dreams? Normally, in waking life it's impossible.

Isn't a square circle just a square?

Originally posted by BenignThinker
What I'm interested in is if you can make things like square circles while controlling dreams? Normally, in waking life it's impossible.

A square circle? I do not think that is visual possible. At least in a three dimensional world.
So you got me. There are limits I guess.

A square circle. The thing people come up with. I love it. Now that is thinking outside the box/circle.

Try next time to visualize this and see what you subconscious comes up with. This could be an interesting monthly task!
A square circle...hmmm!

Hey,
I think the more lucid you are the more realistic everything is. For example you could dream of a square circle and know that what you are looking at is a square circle because that is what is in your head (you accept a lot of bizarre things in your dreams)
However, if you are fully lucid you add more rational thoughts to your surroundings. So what you think to be a square circle in a normal dream would disappear if you became lucid.

Extremely noobish question, but literally anything that your imagination can conceive is a potential experience in a dream.

My first lucid dream was last night and I looked in a mirror twice. The first time my body was very thin but my face was bloated and distorted.

The second time I told myself I wanted to look like a model and I did. Best I ever looked! I looked like Brad Pitt in FIGHT CLUB and it might be because I just watched it the night before.

Does that have anything to do with the thread?

Originally posted by Placebo
Does that have anything to do with the thread?

lol

I heard that Benjamin Franklin used Lucid Dreaming to develop eletrcitiy.