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      tantalizing sex tease???

      I have been baffled by this situation.

      I believe that it is normal to have fantasies. To a degree.

      I of coarse think it is wrong in waking life to get over engrossed in, or act upon your fantasies.
      But here is my problem.

      I have dreams that I am in a tantalizing situation with woman. Things may become heated or flirting, but it becomes out of reach every time.
      Even in my lucid dreams. My psyche will not allow this control. Control to act.

      I thought this was a good thing. I am beginning to wonder. Should these feeling be suppressed? Deep down somewhere, I must think so. But in the end, it is as though I'm frustrated.
      There has been lengthy discussions over the morality of sex in our dreams and especially those of which are lucid and what we choose to do.

      I wanted to get the members take on a general perspective of this particular situation.

      thanks guys/gals
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      I'm really starting to think it's a guy thing. Males seem to have a lot more trouble with sex in dreams than females. It's the first lucid thing I did, and I had to learn not to do it, so I could do other things.

      I'm sure it's not true for all men, and can be overcome. Good luck.

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      Howie I guess my topics are one of the discussions that sparked this thread lol? Thats fine. I have no clue though. Tonight Im going to FILD and hopefully try not to have sex but gets goals done like shoot lighting and fire
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      Perhaps this is a reflection of your current love life, lack there of, etc (of which I know nothing of of course ).

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoonBeam
      I'm really starting to think it's a guy thing. Males seem to have a lot more trouble with sex in dreams than females. It's the first lucid thing I did, and I had to learn not to do it, so I could do other things.
      Wow. I never took this into consideration. That would add a lot of possibilities.
      Possibly giving my self too much credit, I had thought maybe my learned, bedded in morals, were in part, preventing me from acting.

      What difference between the male and females perspective could this imply? What do you think MoonBeamer?
      "Learn not to do it." -

      Maybe it is the males punishment for being pigs. Dirty filthy sex mongers.


      Quote Originally Posted by Mes
      Perhaps this is a reflection of your current love life, lack there of, etc

      This would certainly seem on the surface to manifest those type of dreams.
      I do not have them often, which one would think I am not lacking in that manner. At the same time, being out of reach may seem to go in the same direction?



      Quote Originally Posted by lonestarx View Post
      Howie I guess my topics are one of the discussions that sparked this thread lol? Thats fine. I have no clue though. Tonight Im going to FILD and hopefully try not to have sex but gets goals done like shoot lighting and fire

      I'm actually not sure of your topic. Could you direct me to it/them?
      Mine was spawned from my own dream experiences.


      Thanks thanks and thanks!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Howie View Post
      Wow. I never took this into consideration. That would add a lot of possibilities. [
      Possibly giving my self too much credit, I had thought maybe my learned, bedded in morals, were in part, preventing me from acting.


      Well, I think you would know if that were the case.

      Quote Originally Posted by Howie View Post
      What difference between the male and females perspective could this imply? What do you think MoonBeamer?


      I was having a conversation with someone about the fact that males should be able to have multiple orgasms in lucid dreams, because ultimately it's all in the mind, right? There shouldn't be a physiologic reason stopping him, but maybe it was too ingrained from IRL to stop after one. Just like I have trouble getting thru solid objects in dreams, because I can't IRL. If he could get past that, there'e no reason it shouldn't be possible.

      I know not all males have trouble with this; I've posts where they are describing having orgasms in dreams, but it seems like there are a lot more where they have to avoid it to avoid waking up. That seems a similar problem--I don't know why they wake up when females seem to be able to do it easily and stay in the dream, but surely since it is really all in the mind, that could be overcome too, if you wanted to put enough effort into it.

      Quote Originally Posted by Howie View Post
      Maybe it is the males punishment for being pigs. Dirty filthy sex mongers.


      I hope you are joking--if not, we may have found the source of the problem.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Howie View Post
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      I believe that it is normal to have fantasies. To a degree.

      I of coarse think it is wrong in waking life to get over engrossed in, or act upon your fantasies.
      Thats a good point...if you will go nuts with your imagination = daydreaming = fantasies...then you will sleep better..
      and you will rest more...but it wont change much of the problem.
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      A lucid virgin

      Quote Originally Posted by roguext22 View Post
      Thats a good point...if you will go nuts with your imagination = daydreaming = fantasies...then you will sleep better..
      and you will rest more...but it wont change much of the problem.
      So you think the opposite would work?

      I'm a lucid virgin.

      Well unless you consider -
      I did not have sexual relations with that woman

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      Quote Originally Posted by Howie View Post
      So you think the opposite would work?

      I'm a lucid virgin.

      Well unless you consider -
      I did not have sexual relations with that woman
      lol..go nuts with whatever you want to do, in your fantasies...
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      This idea sparked from reading Moonbeam's posts, if you're having trouble getting some as a guy why not try it from the other side? Change yourself into a female and see if that works.. just for the hell of it. I've had sex as a guy in lucid dreams and it is very different experience. Come to think of it there were a couple of times I did it as a guy I did wake up before I orgasmed.

      We'll find a way for you to lose that lucid virginity yet Howie.

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      I did it as a man once and it seemed pretty similar at the end.

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      Come to think of it there were a couple of times I did it as a guy I did wake up before I orgasmed.
      Very different than real life eey?


      Quote Originally Posted by Vex Kitten View Post
      This idea sparked from reading Moonbeam's posts, if you're having trouble getting some as a guy why not try it from the other side? Change yourself into a female and see if that works.. just for the hell of it. I've had sex as a guy in lucid dreams and it is very different experience.

      We'll find a way for you to lose that lucid virginity yet Howie.
      Now this seems odd. Never thought of that.
      I have been a woman in my dreams four times before. I felt like I had the perspective of a woman. But that can only be what all the data that my brain has processed to what I think it would be like. Just as I have been other people. I can't truly know their feelings.
      At any rate, what I desire is the female. If I did do this, do you think it would alleviate that?
      When you both were men in your dreams, did you desire woman consciously ? Did you make it a point to desire a man or did it come natural.

      ( just have to throw this out there)
      If you did, could that be a possible desire to experience affection from a woman to woman perspective?


      This has become very deep. A lot of subconscious variables.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Howie View Post


      I wanted to get the members take on a general perspective of this particular situation.

      thanks guys/gals
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      I havent tried sex/romance yet in my dreams, but the same happened with me except with violence. I couldn't seem to bring myself to be violent.(probably because of my moral values and martial arts training)

      But on topic, I think it is morally ok to have sex in dreams, it's your own private world. Maybe try making her come onto you?

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      Becasue I can

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      A recent dream.

      The Finer things in life.

      I had a great Lucid last night. It has seemed to effect my mood of today.
      I have relentlessly tried and tried over and over again to drill my subconscious, interact intellectually with my DCs and I have gotten a lot out of that approach. A lot!!
      At least a year now I have gained very little from lucid dreaming (that I am consciously aware of)

      Screw it. I let go because I can. Most lucid dreamers would think ...uh yaa dumb ass, that's what you do in lucid dreams. I just have tried to seek different boundaries and experiences while maintaining a certain moral standard.

      My vent - my lucid

      I was standing on a basket ball court that I used to play on in high school. Finding it odd I did a reality check and whaalaaa -I'm lucid.

      I yelled bring it on! Two teams ran in from opposite sides of the court. It was my game. I can play them like a puppet, as Michael Jordan would say. Executing any move I have desired. What a thrill.
      After the game I ran with my team mates, with a few stints trying to maintain my lucidity.
      I was in an Ivy League Lunch meeting with all the Staff members. Steak - shrimp, I can't remember all. I remember it seeming like,spare no expense. I walked by a table of some upper class folk and grabbed the steak from off his plate. DC - "What the hell do you think your doing young man?"
      I think I am doing what the fuck I want. I ate as I walked. Thinking lucidly, I decided to check out the Library. I have always had a fascination with old libraries. Libraries with some type of history to them. Oak, dark, almost intimidating?
      In the door I saw a female I had worked with waaay back. At that time there was no sexual relationship. Though I wanted one. Though now I shall have. I beckoned her to come over to a door that looked like an elevator. Things were going to progress and they began to. As she acted a thought came to me thinking, I can't wait to tell Vex kitten and Moonbeam this!
      AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHA!!! I felt my lucidity waining. I tried staring at my hands. No good! I woke up! I say

      Funny but sad at the same time.
      What ever. The rest of the dream was nice.


      Last edited by Howie; 02-05-2008 at 09:57 PM. Reason: becasue I can

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      Almost, Howie! Sorry Vex and I spoiled it for you! Next time...

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