What is this!?

**Smockiish** · 06-17-2009 09:55 PM

So last night I believe I pulled of the MILD technique. However, when I entered my dream state all I could see was white space and about five copies of the same person as well as boxes. I knew that I was dreaming but I had no control. In fact I didn't even seem to have a body. No hands, no feet, no nothing. It was awful! Also, I could not speak out loud, only in my head. My vision did seem to pan around, but I was not in control of it. I felt that I was dying of boredom! What's going on!?

Oh, and this was what I believe to be my first conscious LD...which I think might have had something to do with it. This was the first of three dreams I remembered. After this I woke up and I think I entered another where I had the same situation where I was stuck looking at a single person, but I slowly lost my place and had a non-lucid dream. AH!

**Sacred Arboretum** · 06-17-2009 11:18 PM

That sucks!

If it happens again, there are a few things you could try. You could close your eyes and tell yourself that when you open them, you'll have a body and you'll be in a familiar place. Try willing something to happen or change the scene. Or you could even try waking yourself up and re-entering a different dream. Hope this helps, good luck

**Smockiish** · 06-18-2009 01:00 AM

Gosh it was awful. Well thanks a bunch for your advice, I'll be sure to try those out if I get into that situation again!

**Smockiish** · 06-18-2009 12:50 PM

Hmmm, just a couple hours ago I had a dream and became lucid but it still seemed to be forming and everything was blurred. I tried to focus on one spot but eventually I lost lucidity. I seem to forget dream spinning by the time i'm in there!

**Sacred Arboretum** · 06-18-2009 04:44 PM

Maybe you could try autosuggestion before you go to sleep so that you will remember to do that.

**Shift** · 06-19-2009 02:52 PM

Dram control can be a toughie and I think a lot of it is being prepared and being confident of the fact that everything in the dream can be changed by you. You want to be prepared because your thinking and reasoning and creativity can be dampened during a dream, so thinking during the day about how to deal with things for dream control can be helpful.

As far as third person dreams go, there are a few threads on DV on this topic, so just try to read it through or think of your own ideas. I'd be careful with closing the eyes, sometimes when you open them you're actually awake (remember to RC though for FAs).

The fact that you can't speak can be remedied by just pausing in the dream and reminding yourself what it means that you're in a dream. Just stop and give yourself a few moments to keep trying to speak, maybe beginning with a whisper. Also, remember that really, in dreams, there IS no voice, you have no mouth, so really you're just trying to get yourself to hear yourself talking, not to say something. Thinking at DCs and dream elements works just as well as speaking, and if you do want to speak just open your 'mouth' and say something, remembering that sound in a dream is just a hallucination, not real, so just project it out of your mouth and let it happen. This is how I've always done it.

**Smockiish** · 06-19-2009 04:28 PM

Great, thanks!

But I don't think it was third person, they were really just random people that I was looking at. And they weren't doing anything...it was really strange, like they had no minds (which I understand "they aren't real" but still). They were just standing in place.

**Shift** · 06-19-2009 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by Smockiish

In fact I didn't even seem to have a body. No hands, no feet, no nothing. It was awful! Also, I could not speak out loud, only in my head. My vision did seem to pan around, but I was not in control of it.

That's what I meant by third person dream, like in a book, 'writing in the third person'