hmmmmmm............ What am I doing here

**AmyAnn** · 04-13-2011 07:28 PM

I interpret my own dreams tho this one is not very practical,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,?? I don't know what to think of it. :\

Backyard, setting an explosive. Facing it is the boy I grew up with and his father. Behind each are two others, each, evenly spaced. ...[Okay setting the blast and you'll all be okay]...... Explodes in a 20 foot radius. Boy and father disapparated. The other four knocked back cold. None marked by burns tho....... Hmmm..... not quite what I expected from them.

The adjacent garden space becomes a large, classic jail cell. Twenty or more preppy school-kids my age are packed into it. They're sitting and commiserating, I'm stepping over and around them along the cell bars and squeezed out. Went behind the next-door neighbors shed to observe the elder gentleman [something in his hands.... is he,, knitting??] :\ Back to jail. Other kids were trading drugs. I had a massive slab of *bleep* but nothing to smoke it with. I injested some of it. The jail permitted us to visit a carnival ride at the park.

Walking on fair grounds, choose the paratroopers. Three kid's' safety bar unlatched from their seat and the ride was stopped. Back to jail. A beautiful and popular brunette wanted to talk to me privately. I visit her in a compacted basement. I squeezed past old water pipes in the way, over, under, over to get to her. A pipe separates me in the entrance room from her in the doorway of another small room.

White light spilled from the small window onto the gravel ground. A large thin spider on her side of the pipe, shiny black with red marking on it's legs. Non-poisonous.

She asked me, “you're not going to snitch on me for leaving, are you?”. “I'm not telling anyone anything. I don't care. What you do has nothing to do with what I do”.

I tried to go out the way I came but could not, the pipes were too tightly and oddly arranged,, criss-crossed. I wanted to get out quick so less chance of a spider climbing onto me from all these cobwebs spun across the plumbing. I closed my eyes and went from memory so that I could move faster without hesitation:
Crawling on my stomach, under the higher set, over the low laying, under the mid-set; pulling myself all the way toward the wall. Pause and turn 180 degree at the diagonal pipe fixed into the basement corner; thus: I'm in the best position to go under this one and pass over the other low lying pipes crisscrossed to obstruct the way.

**Philosopher8659** · 04-19-2011 12:53 AM

There are two aspects of the human mind, the emotional and the rational. Learning what emotional exercize that we need I don't think is within our mental ability yet, but the rational, I believe we can grasp something of it.

Enter the lucid dream asking a specific simple question. See what happens.

**AmyAnn** · 04-19-2011 06:09 PM

Perhaps you should interpret my dream with your principle of rationalism. Maybe then I will send you a more interesting one.

**Philosopher8659** · 04-19-2011 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by AmyAnn

Perhaps you should interpret my dream with your principle of rationalism. Maybe then I will send you a more interesting one.

I really don't do dream interpretations. I always start with a very specific question, and I have always gotten a direct answer. When one does not start with a question, then one does not actually know the topic, unless it is something simple.

I simply use basic linguistic facts.

Even when I went through a time when I could see things that were to come, and did come about, while awake, I always started with a specific question.

Just like children who do not ask questions, and consequently don't learn, neither will anyone at any age.

**AmyAnn** · 04-19-2011 06:31 PM

I can imagine, the consequence of such things.

**Philosopher8659** · 04-19-2011 06:36 PM

The difficult thing is, when we ask a question, and get an answer, however we are not up to understanding the answer for sometimes decades later.

**AmyAnn** · 04-19-2011 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by Philosopher8659

The difficult thing is, when we ask a question, and get an answer, however we are not up to understanding the answer for sometimes decades later.

I choose not to associate with the character type you describe.

**Philosopher8659** · 04-19-2011 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by AmyAnn

I choose not to associate with the character type you describe.

Then you are missing an important ability of langauge. To answer in such a way that a person will only hear you in their future.

For example, the answer "What is the sound of one hand clapping?" You can use that to answer a lot of questions, it simply means that there are at present only one actually discoursing.

**AmyAnn** · 04-19-2011 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by Philosopher8659

Then you are missing an important ability of langauge. To answer in such a way that a person will only hear you in their future.

For example, the answer "What is the sound of one hand clapping?" You can use that to answer a lot of questions, it simply means that there are at present only one actually discoursing.

Perhaps you should reconstruct your communicative capacity to exclude the flagrant fallacies.

**Philosopher8659** · 04-19-2011 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by AmyAnn

Perhaps you should reconstruct your communicative capacity to exclude the flagrant fallacies.

I will start my search immediatly for the missing hand.

**AmyAnn** · 04-19-2011 06:57 PM

Good deal. If you find one for me, feel free to visit and take a swing.

**Philosopher8659** · 04-19-2011 07:58 PM

Let me leave you with a guess at your dream:
Through your misjudgments, you are imprisoned, and your imprisonment is becoming more confined as time goes on, until you are at the point that your options to escape are so limited that your soon to be bug bait. You have already parted with the only beauty you had.

**AmyAnn** · 04-19-2011 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by Philosopher8659

Let me leave you with a guess at your dream:
Through your misjudgments, you are imprisoned, and your imprisonment is becoming more confined as time goes on, until you are at the point that your options to escape are so limited that your soon to be bug bait. You have already parted with the only beauty you had.

This is a decent interpretation, thank you. Mind you, there is a cell of about twenty kids who are imprisoned. Both the girl and I are the most restricted and isolated in this dream. The dialogue is significant.

**Philosopher8659** · 04-19-2011 08:35 PM

There is a lot of siginificant detail, I only get the gist of it. I don't really practice the art because I trying to stick with fundamentals.

I will give you a piece of advice, there is always only one way out. "You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free."

**AmyAnn** · 04-19-2011 08:54 PM

Truth is practically a subject to the law of relativity, nothing like a fail-safe.

**Philosopher8659** · 04-19-2011 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by AmyAnn

Truth is practically a subject to the law of relativity, nothing like a fail-safe.

Truth is absolute, Law of Relativity is an oxymoron.

**AmyAnn** · 04-19-2011 09:14 PM

Aren't we all figures of speech. Truth is based on definitions, definition is all relative. Some things have more permanence compared to others. The degree of permanence constitutes things insofar as what is associated, otherwise it is a meaningless fragment.

**Philosopher8659** · 04-19-2011 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by AmyAnn

Aren't we all figures of speech. Truth is based on definitions, definition is all relative. Some things have more permanence compared to others. The degree of permanence constitutes things insofar as what is associated, otherwise it is a meaningless fragment.

Children speak a great deal of non-sense, it is something we are suppose to out-grow. When you say the absolute is relative, and not even flinch, you're due for several more years of study. But at your age, it probably will not help. However, what ever gave you that dream, sees more hope in you than I do.

**AmyAnn** · 04-19-2011 09:32 PM

You're continuously over specifying just to validate your virtual reality.

**Philosopher8659** · 04-19-2011 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by AmyAnn

You're continuously over specifying just to validate your virtual reality.

If I were really your enemy, I would flatter you.

**AmyAnn** · 04-19-2011 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by Philosopher8659

If I were really your enemy, I would flatter you.

Okay I promise to be decently considerate. Tell me what you have to say, please.

**Philosopher8659** · 04-19-2011 10:19 PM

I really have nothing more to say. You have decisions to make, and you alone can make them.

I got through my gym work, now I have a kitchen to clean and supper to make.

**AmyAnn** · 04-20-2011 03:07 AM

If truth is absolute, then truth is something being described as permanence. To define something is to give a permanent meaning to it. So if truth is the constitution of permanence, nothing in this dimension is truth by definition. Only nothing can exist permanently. So truth does not exist.

**~~DeletePlease~~** · 04-20-2011 03:18 AM

Hey Philosopher8659, I think you just found that special someone you were waiting for all this time. Congrats, bud.

**AmyAnn** · 04-20-2011 03:29 AM

Nothing-truth only means something through a sense that it effects or affects something. Sensation is actually chemicals moving around in your brain, thus relative. Relatively, all that means anything is what we can sense.

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