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      Unthinkable dream

      I dreamt last night that I was performing oral sex on my seven year old son. I awoke and went down the hall to his room, to check on him. My heart was pounding, why in the world would I dream this, I begged god to tell me.

      I have had a simlar dream about three years ago.

      I was trying to recall things I've spoke to him about that might trigger this. I was telling him about protecting his body and that he had the right to always say no. I told him about bad people who hurt children, and how to always tell mommy or daddy--no matter what those bad people threaten him with..


      I love my son so, so very much. I'm an advocate for children, and I rally against sexaul predators.

      I'm sick to my stomach over this. Why!?

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      Dont think the dream would mean anything you would normaly do thats for sure. But think of it as part of your mind which is capable of thinking such things. Say for instince you know an think that you love your son very much. And the word love is conected with meany meanings an your mind knows this.
      But you shouldnt feel disturbed that your mind is able to think these thoughts. But if you feel sick about them then focus on good thoughts to push them out of your head.

      Laugh at those sick thoughts an think how stupid an useless they are until they fade.
      To focus on one state of mind always.

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      Society is rather ambivalent about sexuality. With one Face, Society insists that Sex is beautiful and natural... that it is an expression of love. But the other Face of Society insists that before a certain age there is no fate worst than sex. Children that have been discovered to have been the victims of sexual advances by adults, would not feel too oddly about it... not until they would become aware of all the adult anxieties that subsequently charge the situation. When they find themselves in bi-weekly therapy sessions, then they suddenly realize how horrible sex is -- that it brings on a full invasion of their privacy from the Adult World and they are never allowed to be innocent again.

      Anyway, I think the cause of your dream was that your Subconscious Mind wishes to point out this ambivalence to you -- that Sex cannot be seen as both natural and beautiful AND the most horrible of fates -- a fate worst than death.

      Ask yourself whether you approve of sex for yourself while denying it for your children, and whether there is not something arbitrary about that. Perhaps our Society is mistaken about sex being so Beautiful between consenting adults. Yes, sex is quite inevitable. But it certainly does not need any intellectual advocates. Sex, as desire, will certainly assure the survival of the Human Race without anybody needing to provide a moral justification for it. But among thinking people we should consider that sex may be considered for those of any age as beastial and dehumanizing, if one is to consider Humanity as above the animal and the instinctual. If Humanity is ultimately Spiritual, then Sex, as it is always a reversion to the animalistic, should never be glorified.

      So this bazaar dream was only posing an argument for your consideration. Yes, give that argument your full attention, but, NO, you are not some secret pervert... not anymore than anybody else.

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      Maybe this may sound abit blunt, BUT

      there is a possibility of reaction formation here.
      You being an advocate of children may show your denial into these sexual thoughts, in reality you might want to satisfy these dreams.

      Reaction reaction are rather common especially amongst anti-homosexuals, however they're more likely to be sexually turned on by homosexual acts than the common person.

      But dreams should never really be intrepreted litterately

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      Originally posted by satnitefever
      Maybe this may sound abit blunt, BUT

      there is a possibility of reaction formation here.
      You being an advocate of children may show your denial into these sexual thoughts, in reality you might want to satisfy these dreams. *

      Reaction reaction are rather common especially amongst anti-homosexuals, however they're more likely to be sexually turned on by homosexual acts than the common person. *

      But dreams should never really be intrepreted litterately *
      Yes, and 'reaction formation' may simply be a result of how the Subconscious Mind works totalistically, that is, the Subconscious Mind, when it is focussed on any subject, does not choose sides, but examines the entire thing or idea. The Conscious Mind may suppose that it is thinking as an advocate AGAINST pedophile sexuality, but the message the Subconscious gets is to open the complete can of worms that is pedophile sex. Likewise, organized gay bashers have a subconscious mind that has been pointed to the contemplation of every inconceivable homo-perversion.

      Perhaps the Modern Age was too precipitate in dismissing the Wisdom in the Tradition of being entirely discreet and tacit regarding all things Sexual. Indeed, it at first surprised me that anybody should come on line, or publish on the front page of the New York Times that they dreamt of sexually abusing their own children. But she was an outspoken advocate and so she became used to a conversation that was endlessly suggestive of sex, sex, sex... even the continuous contemplation of sex with minors. I suppose the lesson here is that talking stirs up thought and thought stirs up ... well, everything that thought can stir up. Perhaps we should consider not talking about or even contemplating such things.

      Well, then people insist that talking brings awareness, and awareness solves the problem. Well, as I see it, the BIGGEST PROBLEM with pedophilia is often the Systematic and Institutionalized Guilt that is imposed on these children when they are discovered. In most cases these children were guiltless and innocent and had no idea of the huge taboo they were engaged in, and could have easily enough simply walked away, though a bit more prepared for adolescence than any of their fellows. But, now, with all of the AWARENESS of the PROBLEM, these children are endlessly PUNISHED and made to feel abysmally GUILTY with all the therapies that are imposed on them that are intended to convey the point that they should NOT feel guilty, and that sex is NOT dirty and perverted, when the proper age is reached, but which in their imposition and context are emphasizing the very opposite. But children are not stupid. Instead of being allowed to run around and play, on tuesdays and thursdays every week for two years, they must spend an hour listening to therapists who insist upon brainwashing them that they should not feel guilty about something they in fact did not feel guilty about until the AWARENESS of the Adult world fell on their heads like a moral avalanche. The situation should be met with a strict "Johnny, one should not take one's pants off for strangers", and then wack his backside as though he had just used a bad word, and then FORGET ALL ABOUT IT -- for his good, your good and the good of the whole blessed world.

      So, although it has set up a lucrative industry for psychological counselers, we need to wonder whether all this AWARENESS doesn't do more harm than good. Perhaps we should just keep quiet like our Victorian Ancestors and pretend for the sake of our own piece of mind that all is goodness and light and that Human Beings are ultimately Spiritual Creators, and that if we don't allow ourselves to talk about sex, then that will be one huge step taken in order to not be obsessed with sex.

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      Could be.

      It could just be the fact that you so abhor sexual things as such, that your mind twisted it into something worse and it resulted in a nightmare. Something that if that really happened, would so cripple you and ruin your life that it would be hard to live.
      Stuck somewhere in a place between here and there

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      Re: Unthinkable dream

      Originally posted by RedCrystal
      I dreamt last night that I was performing oral sex on my seven year old son. I awoke and went down the hall to his room, to check on him. My heart was pounding, why in the world would I dream this, I begged god to tell me.

      I have had a simlar dream about three years ago.

      I was trying to recall things I've spoke to him about that might trigger this. I was telling him about protecting his body and that he had the right to always say no. I told him about bad people who hurt children, and how to always tell mommy or daddy--no matter what those bad people threaten him with..


      I love my son so, so very much. I'm an advocate for children, and I rally against sexaul predators.

      I'm sick to my stomach over this. Why!?
      I think that as the roll of protector, we adults must take on the mentality of those from whom we are protecting them from. And anyone who has dealt with the sexually abused knows what these people are capable of. The subconscious mind will run specific scenarios to know what to look for in any given circumstances. These are typical Freudian applications to these problems.
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      Going over Fruedian I would like to point out Jungian Philosophy, which is like Fruedian, states that if you supress these dark thoughts without just having them you can become more likely to do these actions or become more violent and angry. No matter what horrible thought you have you can play it in your mind for the experience that it is wrong. You won't have to live it out on this existance.

      I doubt this dream should be interpreted literally and even in other incest dreams there could be some other meaning. In this case the son could represent a certain archetype since most archetypes like to take on a familiar form.
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      This is a bit of an old topic, but I hope the original poster sees this.

      Oral sex is almost always either A) showing the readiness to give/receive pleasure or B) the need to talk about sex.

      Clearly, in this case, I think it is B, and it's literally a pun, though clearly not a funny one that has greatly disturbed you. I think this is simply your mind's way of telling you that it's time to have a talk about sex with your son, a frank talk about where babies come from and whatever your beliefs about sex are. Your mind is telling you that somewhere within you, you feel he's READY to hear this talk and is encouraging you to act on it, and not wait.

      I do NOT believe in any way that this indicates a sexual desire for your son. I once had an oral sex dream about my mother, and after the initial trauma and looking up that symbol, I realized that it was time to talk to her about sex (specifically, orientation). I'll be the first one to tell you that in NO way was that an erotic dream, nor did it reflect any waking desires. The talk was very helpful though, and after that, I've had the dream a few more times, with other people, and it's always people with whom I need to have a sexual discussion.

      Please, let your mind rest easy on this one. It's simply your brain's most direct way of getting its point across, though I can certainly understand your concern. I have a 4 year old boy myself and if I didn't know what this meant, I'd probably run screamin to a therapist.

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      well, considering you are repulsed by the notion, don't worry about it. now, if it turned you on, then i'd worry...
      I am doing a science fair project on lucidity and controling dreams, and appriciate any imput or advice that others have.

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