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      Dead cat in wine bowl

      I go to a local church. I saw through the eyes of a man who also attends the church occasionally and he was wearing a brown shirt, Like he did at the time. He was in a kitchen and then I saw myself and a girl in white robes who also attends the church and then the man was going to get some wine, But there was a dead cat in the wine bowl (Freshly dead; It hadn't yet rotted that I could see) and the girl said she put it there because she was bored, But I didn't seem to do anything about it or mind. He didn't drink the wine.

      Note - She's a bit over two years older than me.

      I'm not sure what all of this means. I get the white robes bit. Perhaps this means he didn't feel like drinking the life blood of Jesus Christ because something was in close proximity to it?
      Last edited by 101Volts; 04-24-2013 at 02:30 AM.

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      Hmm, Desecrating the sacred for no better reason than boredom. And yet the one who confesses to the crime/sin is wearing the white robes of innocence. Is her crime innocent because her reason is just boredom and not malice? Can her action be excused? You don't mind and won't do anything about it, so perhaps it really is not a big deal. Maybe it is something that would be a big deal to others but you disagree? Something others would consider blasphemous, but you see that the perpetrator is an innocent without real malice.

      Does the man not drink the wine because unlike you he finds the perpetrator's offense repulsive? he may not share your view of her innocence. he may be more devout than you, or just more holier than though in his attitude, a judgemental person, who sees right versus wrong, whereas you do not see the dichotomy as clearly - you see the shades of gray in this issue, the mitigating circumstances.

      Cats are reputed to have nine lives and be hard to kill, and yet here is the dead cat, the freshly dead cat. It is a fresh issue, which was not an issue until recently, just came up. On the other hand the cat not having rotted yet, could also be a confirmation of your seeing the perpetrator as innocent, not rotten. Returning to cats having nine lives, hard to kill, lucky over and over again, but the luck ran out. Perhaps it was just ill luck and boredom.

      The setting is a church. I think this dream is about moral values, right and wrong, sinfulness or innocence. The characters may not be who they appear, and I doubt the sin or perceived sin is really the desecration of communion with a dead cat, but rather it is an issue of something appearing to be very grave issue morally to someone else, but you do not see it that way, perhaps.

      Is there anything going on in your life, any moral issue that this could apply to?
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      [QUOTE=101Volts;2011427]I go to a local church. I saw through the eyes of a man who also attends the church occasionally and he was wearing a brown shirt, Like he did at the time. He was in a kitchen and then I saw myself and a girl in white robes who also attends the church and then the man was going to get some wine, But there was a dead cat in the wine bowl (Freshly dead; It hadn't yet rotted that I could see) and the girl said she put it there because she was bored, But I didn't seem to do anything about it or mind. He didn't drink the wine.

      The dream setting is a church.....or a place if one is religious...where one goes to pay respect to God. In the dream you are being shown another person's point of view, or being shown how a man who may have some qualities that reflect in yourself. SEeing other people in our dreams tells us this person is being shown so you will think on this person's characteristics or traits and think how that might apply to your life at the present. The man wears a brown shirt. Brown is the color of Earthiness, dirt , soil etc. Can represent a tendency to some materialism but more in a good way , as one who is concerned with having enough financial support in one's life for the things one needs. Pure materialism or uncontrollable desires like riches, fine things, living beyond one's means is represented by the colors black and red together..FYI, there is a huge difference. Being in a kitchen is aplace where you make choices about what you accept into your life. A girl in white robes suggests a female of purity and innocence. This girl can represent two things and it should be you the dreamer to connect with whichever meaning the symbol has for you .....it can represent your female side of oneself, the receptive, the intuitive, the passive, the emotional or it can represent an actual female who is innocent that has presented herself in your life. The man (which would be you) going to get some wine but sees a dead cat in the bowl could be another way of saying something has already ruined an opportunity for a sacred event or time in your life. The last part of it...."the girl said she put the dead cat there because she was bored" to me can say a couple of things. ......You may be ignoring your own part of self that will nuture your emotional, receptive side of self, the intuitive. Perhaps it's not a "manly thing to do"....Also you may have some conflicts within about the church, or your spiritual side, vs, the everyday person that you are. Sometimes when people first evolve in spiritual development they hesitate because they think they can't be themselves, normal ,,rowdy, maybe a hellraiser or so on...but find it's all about what is in the Heart and how you treat others that is the most important part of it. I threw out a lot of different ways of thinking on purpose, so you could sort thru it and see if any of it helps you understand your dream.

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      Perhaps I should clear a few things up;

      Perhaps it didn't appear that I said I was wearing white robes in the dream; I was. I also had recurring dreams of wearing white robes at the time.

      IRL I go to a church, Not just in the dream. The dream took place in an apartment, I think, And prior to being in the kitchen I saw in the living room. And I know the two people, But not very well. I also forgot to mention that after I saw myself (I didn't say anything at all in the dream) I saw in a third-person perspective and the man put the wine he had down a sink drain. This dream was also months ago, In February I think.

      The girl attends band practice at the church on occasion. I do know she laughs a lot (IMHO) when in band practice and at lunch before the practice and she sometimes says things and then laughs. For a while I did silly things around her like put a guitar tuner on my nose to see if I could get her to laugh and it didn't work.

      I don't know the man very well, I do know he's not in very good physical health and I'd guess he's in his 30s or 40s. I know he smokes and had an aneurysm prior to the dream, But that might not have much to do with it. Once, Prior to the dream I also overheard him being judgmental after I'd seen him in church the first time.
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      If this dream occurred in February, why do you want it interpretted now? Is there something that makes you think this dream continues to be relevant to you today? I think dreams are most relevant the closer to the time of the dream we are, but if a long time has passed not only do you no longer recall in as much detail what was on your mind but the issues you are struggling with may have changed drastically. Unless you strongly feel that this dream continues to be relevant, it may not be.

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      101.....It helps to always tell as dream in full detail. Maybe times the most important clues are in the details. Because you've changed the dream so much with the new version, I would say please forget all that was said by me about the dream. Or repost the dream as a whole not a little bit of this one and a little of that one. It's too hard for us who didn't have the dream to follow.
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      ☺ cats hate wine ☺

      This includes your later details, so is the Dream Director's Cut:

      A NEW PART OF YOU
      A part of you thought about living in the area the dream is about.
      You saw another view in you this man represents, who I guess can just mean he attends church occasionally. Whether you do regularly or not, it might mean you are not committed to this area, of Spirituality, which might not mean the church, but you and your values in this area.

      WHITE ROBES
      You were wearing white robes in the dream means your Spirituality I'd say. Or your purity which really is the same.
      You also had recurring dreams of wearing white robes at the time means you had recurring thoughts of becoming like this.

      YOUR SINFUL SIDE
      So you see the view of yourself that is not pure, but dirty or sinful. Perhaps being judgemental is one sin.
      This view of you was about to cook up something or be nourished, in this.
      Then you saw yourself with the feminine or receptive and wise side of you that so well, even without robes, symbolizes spirituality, and fits is older or wiser than you.

      YOUR TWO NEW SIDES
      You know the two people in real life, but not very well, may tell you don't know these two parts of you, that they represent, very well.
      Your view of the dirty side is not usually what you think of about yourself. Just as when you think that, you think of purifying it so that was probably also a fairly new thought for you.

      THE HOLY WINE
      The non-spiritual you wanted to partake of that.
      But you killed the idea even before trying, out of boredom of drinking the spirit!
      Holy Moses the Cat. Haa. Your idea to look after this side of you and love it wasn't rotten yet, but it was freshly dead. Perhaps it was a bit of a joke to you too.
      But you didn't seem to do anything about it or mind. You didn't drink the holy wine.

      DOWN THE DRAIN
      After you saw yourself, now your reverie was over, you saw that view of you again pour your idea of Spirit down the drain.

      Last edited by Superman1; 04-26-2013 at 02:13 PM. Reason: Cat kept trying to put my mouse in the bowl

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      I'm a bit late replying but thanks for this interpretation, Superman1. If that's it or close to it, It doesn't sound very healthy.

      And did you take that photo of a cat in a bowl?

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      Probly very common, in this world, 101Volts.
      No ho ha, not my puddy tat. Why go to that bother when there are millions of moggies who have already uploaded their pic on the net? No it's not my wino, the poor drunk thingy.
      Last edited by Superman1; 05-06-2013 at 05:21 AM.

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