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      What is the Lucid Dream Figure Called "King Kampera's Passion"

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      I am a Chinese male that's 20 years old. Family situation: Both parents are married to each other though my mother had schizophrenia when I around 5th grade.
      As for relevant info: I took an art class back in the 7th grade and never thought about it since. I took violin lessons for 5 years starting in 3rd grade, but I had to quit since my family didn't have money at the time. Not that it mattered, I didn't like playing the violin anyway. Also recently but after I had my dream, I went to a acupuncturist/herbal-ist. She recommended that I sing more to help my well-being. She might have been right. She knew I didn't like the sun because of my eczema. I originally went to see her because I had light eczema, and I figured that Chinese medicine would have more experience curing Chinese diseases than Western Medicine. By the way, this was my 6th lucid dream.

      Okay so here's my dream:

      I was in a music class with a somewhat close friend. He was a friend of mine back a year ago, but we haven't had close contact since. Though I thought he reminded me of myself.
      In that dream, I felt like it was a normal day even though I had never been to the place. The inside of it was entirely brown. The room itself felt like it could fit 50 people, but no more than 75. There were rulers (as in school equipment) and blank art paintings on the side. I remember seeing a few cellos, but that's it. I saw the teacher. He was quite old. He had a big chin, and he wore glasses. He had a sweater vest on with an odd pattern of straight lines. Everyone else was in tuxedos. I got out of the room then I did the usual check my hands to see if I was dreaming, and I was. I never looked at the sky, but the street was sleet white. Everything was in the color or light, but you could still tell the street and the buildings were there. The first thing I did after I realized I was dreaming was to go up to the teacher and asked him what he represented. He said, "I represent illustrations." Unsatisfied with his answer, I yelled out loud, "Dream, tell me what he represents." A booming voice behind the teacher said, "I am King Kampera's Passion, Answer to All Questions." (I didn't freak out about the voice because I expected something similar from the dream books I read) Then I asked him a second question, "Dream, how do you spell Kampera?" (This part made me laugh when I woke up) In the same booming voice, I heard, "K A M P E R A." Then I woke up.

      Hope that helps!

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      Correct me if I am wrong but as a Westerner, I have heard that Chinese traditionally value humility and modesty. The teacher in your dream is the one to listen to. His answer that he represents illustration, is a humble and yet very revealing answer. An illustration is an example or drawing that helps to explain or clarify. just like a picture can tell a thousand words by translating ideas into a visual representation, which if it is well chosen can tell you a lot about something, similarly some dreams will pack a lot of meaning into a short amount of material, using metaphors for example to illustrate a point, which if your conscious mind were to put into verbal more rational language would take much longer to explain and might fall short of the meaning, which may be packed into a short dream. Both visual pictures and music are known for this ability (if well done) to portray more meaning than can be conveyed with words.

      However, you do not trust the old teacher who gave you a simple and yet insightful answer. You wanted something grandiose, like a king. Something with more umps to it, more passion. You wanted more effect like a booming voice, because the simple old teacher would not suffice for you. You were not satisfied with one insightful answer, you wanted an answer to all questions. So your dream provided you this pompous voice that was full of itself.

      Personally, I would doubt that Kampera has much meaning, because that booming voice was a part of you that wants to have the answer to all questions, but I don't think it does. If I were you, in your next lucid dream, try to listen more to what a character such as the humbler old teacher has to say because while "I represent illustration" is not the answer to all questions, but it is a very good start.

      Please forgive me if I offend you by speaking so boldly about the relative value of the parts of your dream. If you disagree, of course you may disregard my interpretation and look for other answers.
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      You're right about the Chinese tradition. The thing though is that the teacher was Caucasian, so I'm not too sure that your answer would be completely accurate. I'm ethnically Chinese, but residing in America. That said, it was my fault for not including these pieces of info. I'm deeply sorry for that.

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      even though the teacher was Caucasian, he is a part of you no matter what, a part of your mind. Also even if you live in America from what you have said it sounds like your values may still be very steeped in Chinese tradition or a combination of both Chinese and Western, that may be significant for such a dream. Who do you listen to? Which tradition do you follow? Who do you accept as your teacher or who do you accept as an authority to answer your questions? Did you not accept the teacher's answer in this dream because the answer was not grand enough or unexpected, or because he was not Chinese? It could be that the teacher's answer was not what you expected, and so you said does anyone else have another answer? but even though the teacher's answer is not what your conscious self expected, but it is the first answer that your subconscious gave you, and that could be significant.
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      My values are a combination of both. Western and Chinese. I accept that both books as well as myself would best answer my questions. I most likely did not accept the teacher's answer because I was frustrated. I asked two other dream figures from previous dreams, "What was something I need to see?" The answers I got included "See A 3D Film and Pink Rocker Pants." I thought then that the answer "Illustrations" would be more or less a repeat, so I thought I'd ask the dream itself who does he represent to see if I get a different answer.

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      Well, you know sometimes the answers we get from dreams are not as meaningful as we hoped for. That is due to the fact that in a dream ultimately you are asking yourself, and you will only get a deep and meaningful answer if some part of you has a deep and meaningful answer. However, no matter how much you long for a deep and meaningful answer, if all you have is a question thus far and no answer yet, then you might not get anything out of it. Perhaps it is time to try for something else in your next lucid dream, and you can come back to questioning it in the future sometime after a break? Maybe in the meantime your subconscious will have more time to think of a more meaningful answer.
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