I Hate God

[Windstorm]

I sorry but this is how I feel. For almost a year I have been tormented with evil dreams which relatives say come from evil entities. This may be true. But is it normal for God to send you dreams constantly convicting you? When I say convicting, I don't mean just two or three times. It's been happening now for almost three months. For instance, I'll have a dream where God will continually warn me about Hell fire if I do not serve Him and His Son. I was thinking about what he said and at one point I even considered going back to church.(just so you know I was raised with religious beliefs) But as the convictions became more and more frequent, it really pushed me further away and now I don't think I'll ever go back again. What should I do? Sometimes I would just like to be myself but I feel like I can't because He was constantly on me. It's bad enough where I have been having dreams of the Devil being my counselor and telling me that I would meet him face to face(he was red with ram horns sitting behind a desk). Since that made me uncomfortable, I appreciate the fact if He were tring to save me but why would this loving fair God convict me and push me further away? Frankly it made me listen to the Devil/counselor even more. What do you make of this?

[brandyn]

windstorm i dont know what your christian walk is like but i urge you to seek other christians about this and talk to them and you pray and ask God to heal your mind and start reading the word personally i have had the same thing, there is a differnce between conviction and condemnation, the holy spirit will convict you , the devil will condemn you and act like its God doing that but thats deception, you can be yourself ,you have tothrow that man made religious stuff we have been taguht out the window because God accepts you for who you are and loves you regardless of what you do but if you follow Him he will start to mold you and change you into His image, he wants a personal relationship just like a father, a good father still loves his son when he does something wrong Gods is allowing you to be tormented by the devil so you will run in His arms , hes taking the blinders off to show you being on the devils side is no game, when ever you feel the enemy starting to get at you put on some christian music any genre just real praise music, thats a powerful weapon and helps me go to sleep when the enemy trys to torment me at night pray and ask God to lead you to a church or atleast christian fellowship, also christianforums.com is a great forum to talk about this, definitely repost this there

[Shift]

Hmm all I know is that the more you worry about it in real life, the more it will show up in your dreams to exasperate you- not the work of evil spirits. I believe that dreams are just dreams, but if this is something that is really bothering you, then you should do as brandyn said and get some counseling from people who considered knowledgeable about religion and devils and how to deal with such an issue, at the very least for peace of mind so that you stop having nightmares. Also if you are trying to keep away from the devil, is it wise to state that you hate God? I am far from religious, but even to me that seems like a step in the wrong direction. Or perhaps a giant leap.

[Windstorm]

Thanks for the advice. I appreciate it very much. Just so you know, I am a fun-loving person who has always found comfort in independence an pretty much making my own paths and going my own way. I forgot to tell that I do have a spiritual guide who advises me what to do and the only time that I am comforted is when he is around(although he is an animal). But getting back to the subject, as far as hating God that doesn't mean that I am demon possessed does it? If it were up to me I would discard all this rubbish and just get on with my life.

[brandyn]

A spirit guide is a demon!!! NO matter if they are an animal or any form they take , your listening to the wrong person you need to educate yourself biblically if you really want to know what is going on, you can go your own path which is the same thing as satans path or you can go God path which is narrow, Jesus is the only way , there is no other way its all deception, as long as your walking your own path you will be swimming in demonic activity it is invitable

[Windstorm]

That may be but this guide makes me feel good and at peace. When I say my own path I don't mean Satan, but rather instead a neutral path that makes me confortable. Like the Christians and holy people follow Christ, Satanists and evil people follow Satan, and I follow a ballanced path if you could call it that.

[Nazzul]

I sorry but this is how I feel. For almost a year I have been tormented with evil dreams which relatives say come from evil entities. This may be true. But is it normal for God to send you dreams constantly convicting you? When I say convicting, I don't mean just two or three times. It's been happening now for almost three months. For instance, I'll have a dream where God will continually warn me about Hell fire if I do not serve Him and His Son. I was thinking about what he said and at one point I even considered going back to church.(just so you know I was raised with religious beliefs) But as the convictions became more and more frequent, it really pushed me further away and now I don't think I'll ever go back again. What should I do? Sometimes I would just like to be myself but I feel like I can't because He was constantly on me. It's bad enough where I have been having dreams of the Devil being my counselor and telling me that I would meet him face to face(he was red with ram horns sitting behind a desk). Since that made me uncomfortable, I appreciate the fact if He were tring to save me but why would this loving fair God convict me and push me further away? Frankly it made me listen to the Devil/counselor even more. What do you make of this? It sounds like you are having a real struggle with your own feelings about god. I also use to feel really guilty and bad about my self because I was a sinner and would be punished by this invisible force that I cant see. Well I relized something. If god is really good and benevolant then he wouldent cause me to feel this way. So either god is not all good or he dose not exist. Well if god would punish people just because they dont want to follow the bible then I would not worship such a thing even under the threat of eternal damnation. What you need to do is really study religion and see the evidence for it. I found that the only reason people belive in the bible is because they were indoctrinated so. If these dreams are causing you such pain then the eaisist way to fix this is stop beliving in god.

[Dreamworld]

It sounds like you are having a real struggle with your own feelings about god. I also use to feel really guilty and bad about my self because I was a sinner and would be punished by this invisible force that I cant see. Well I relized something. If god is really good and benevolant then he wouldent cause me to feel this way. So either god is not all good or he dose not exist. Well if god would punish people just because they dont want to follow the bible then I would not worship such a thing even under the threat of eternal damnation. What you need to do is really study religion and see the evidence for it. I found that the only reason people belive in the bible is because they were indoctrinated so. If these dreams are causing you such pain then the eaisist way to fix this is stop beliving in god. You are greatly mistaken. God is testing your faith. In order to know good you must have experienced evil. Also there are many interpretations of hell. I believe in the Jewish Hell. Which makes a lot more sense. The bible has many things that are symbolic, but it is a book of unknown wisdom. If you are going to give up on God because of your bad dreams, imagine how ashamed he would be, since he suffered a scourging, and a crucification, by the people he created. His children killing their own father. God made the Earth so he could feel true love. It wouldn't be true love if he did not create a counterpart. Suffering, and hate, symbolized my Satan. Would you need God if everything was perfect? Would religion even exist? Also Satan can be talking to you directly. Satan is a symbol of evil. Do not listen to the devil.

[Nazzul]

Do not listen to this guy. God is testing your faith. In order to know good you must have experienced evil. So are you saying that god is doing this to him to make him belive in him more? I thought that God knew he was going to be crucified at least thats what it says in the bible.

[Dreamworld]

So are you saying that god is doing this to him to make him belive in him more? I added a lot more to my post. No, he is testing her faith. God wants true love. God wants a love like a father, and son. Doubt, and losing your faith only brings you further away from him.

[Nazzul]

I added a lot more to my post. No, he is testing her faith. God wants true love. God wants a love like a father, and son. Doubt, and losing your faith only brings you further away from him. If god want true love why does he hurt us so, just to test us? So god wants love like a father so he beats us? I guess it does say in the bible that we have to beat our own unruly children. When I hear god just killed a million people with a disaster then it sure makes me think wow you must really love us to kill us and all those people can go meet him and thank him for killing them. For Windstorm I say that these dreams are your own creation. Bieng your own creation you can fight these dreams off. I remember when I used to have dreams of monsters and evil what I did was fight them and win because I knew I had the power to do it. Just know that these things are all in your head...hah and I suggest doing some research on religion to find reality.

[Dreamworld]

If god want true love why does he hurt us so, just to test us? So god wants love like a father so he beats us? I guess it does say in the bible that we have to beat our own unruly children. Do you doubt for a second that there is evil? Even if you did not believe in God what explanation do you have for evil? The bible does not tell us to beat our unruly children.. Think of it as this. If you did not have bad experiences, how do you feel happy? Happiness is feeling better than you have. Tell me. Who created the things you see in your room? Did it just appear? Even if you believe in evolution and the big bang such as myself, whats before that, and before that? Their is without a doubt a creator.

[Snowy Egypt]

Ok, here's what I say; all this means is that your thinking about this issue IRL. Whether Conciously or Unconciously, I can't say, but it is following you into your dreams. But is it normal for God to send you dreams constantly convicting you? Most of the time, everything you dream about is something your thinking about at that certain time. Some of the religious (me included) and non-religious dreamers on this site will probably tell you something along the lines of this. I think your Sub-concious is wondering whether you believe or not. And trust me, your sub-con plays a HUGE role in your dreams. A spirit guide is a demon!!! NO matter if they are an animal or any form they take , your listening to the wrong person Umm...okay, I don't know where you heard this from, but in all honesty, that's just silly. Anyway Windstorm, I hope I helped you out. I'm not really good with this sort of thing, but I just felt like I should try to help. ^__^ EDIT: Oh, and sorry about the spelling mistakes...hehe

[Nazzul]

Do you doubt for a second that there is evil? Even if you did not believe in God what explanation do you have for evil? The bible does not tell us to beat our unruly children.. Think of it as this. If you did not have bad experiences, how do you feel happy? Happiness is feeling better than you have. Tell me. Who created the things you see in your room? Did it just appear? Even if you believe in evolution and the big bang such as myself, whats before that, and before that? Their is without a doubt a creator. I doubt that evil is some force out there but I do belive people can do evil things. Even though this is getting a little of topic I will see what I can say about the things in my room. My bible tells me it was made by the Collins' Clear-Type Press. I remember making this diarama when I was a child with glue and paper. I have this old mask made in Indonesia at least thats what it tells me so it has to be true. Well I can say that happines is produced with chemicals in the brain the hypothalmus was it, even without knowing how feeling sad is like. I do not think you have to experince something to know the opposite. Even though something can not be explained then it does not mean that some god created it. Oh and yes the bible does tell you to beat your children along with some other horrendous things, though that is the christian bible I am talking about, would you be thinking of some other one?

[Dreamworld]

I doubt that evil is some force out there but I do belive people can do evil things. Even though this is getting a little of topic I will see what I can say about the things in my room. My bible tells me it was made by the Collins' Clear-Type Press. I remember making this diarama when I was a child with glue and paper. I have this old mask made in Indonesia at least thats what it tells me so it has to be true. Well I can say that happines is produced with chemicals in the brain the hypothalmus was it, even without knowing how feeling sad is like. I do not think you have to experince something to know the opposite. Even though something can not be explained then it does not mean that some god created it. Does that explain why the rich become spoiled? When 5 million dollars feels like 5? I'm talking about true happiness. The happiness Jesus felt as he died on the cross. And I was talking about how did anything get here. Beyond astronomy, beyond the big bang, who made the universe?!

[brandyn]

you betcha God made it, and to the person who thinks demons are not real and silly thats fine you can think that and only believe what you an see with your normal 5 senses but the fact is there real whether your aware of it or not, you really think a animal is talking to windstorm and guiding her or some "good" spirit? its all demonic you know that saying satans greatest trick in the book is convincing the world he doesnt exist? well its true

[Shift]

Ok, here's what I say; all this means is that your thinking about this issue IRL. Whether Conciously or Unconciously, I can't say, but it is following you into your dreams. Most of the time, everything you dream about is something your thinking about at that certain time. Some of the religious (me included) and non-religious dreamers on this site will probably tell you something along the lines of this. I think your Sub-concious is wondering whether you believe or not. And trust me, your sub-con plays a HUGE role in your dreams. Precisely. A spirit guide is a demon!!! NO matter if they are an animal or any form they take , your listening to the wrong person you need to educate yourself biblically if you really want to know what is going on, you can go your own path which is the same thing as satans path or you can go God path which is narrow, Jesus is the only way , there is no other way its all deception, as long as your walking your own path you will be swimming in demonic activity it is invitable I think you ought to ignore people who talk like that. Zealotry never helps anything. Things like this ought to be approached from a rational standpoint. I'm agnostic, but either way you need to approach this objectively and not like a lunatic. If you believe in God, then you will find the way because isn't that what belief in God is about? Even if not, no one has the right to say things like this to you, especially if you are already feeling pressured. I still think you ought to go speak to a leader of whatever religion you believe in, if it will comfort you and you would like to pursue religion. Sitting down and having a conversation with someone who can try to understand how you're feeling and what you are going through is important, and hopefully they won't automatically do what brandyn did. The internet is not really a good place for advice for things like this, because people like that will react that way. Hopefully there is a rational person who is a member of your church who can help you sort it out. Good luck!

[Hazel]

This is something that you must choose, but from what I read it seems apparent that God is trying to tell you something important. You shouldn't hate Him for sending you such dreams, you should listen to Him. I do not believe that He is convicting you, but rather showing His love by trying to warn you.

[Jdeadevil]

Not that I know of if this is about a dream or not but shoudn't this be in here? - Click

[Nazzul]

I'm talking about true happiness. The happiness Jesus felt as he died on the cross. ST. Matthew 28, 46 and about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice saying, E-li E-li, la-ma sa-bach-tha-ni? that is to say, my God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? What in gods name (pun not intended) are you talking about. Listen it's fun talking about religion but I can see that you will not see to reason and logic.

[Dreamworld]

ST. Matthew 28, 46 and about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice saying, E-li E-li, la-ma sa-bach-tha-ni? that is to say, my God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? What in gods name (pun not intended) are you talking about. Listen it's fun talking about religion but I can see that you will not see to reason and logic. I wasn't trying to debate but I will now. Let me tell you a little about my self. I'm a deist. Its a philosophy that God put things all in motion, and that the bible should be meant to be taken as a philosophy other than taken literally. That is the gospel of Matt. Matt. 27:46,50 (see also Mark 15:34): "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, 'Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?' that is to say, 'My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?' ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost." Luke 23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, 'Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:' and having said thus, he gave up the ghost." John 19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, 'It is finished:' and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost." So by reasonably equating John's "giving up" of the spirit with total event of the final cry, the problem is resolved. We need only recognize that John is focusing on what Jesus said that was not shouted publicly - the plea of thirst, the statement of completion, and the turning over of responsibility for Jesus' mother to John. This fits in with his station at the foot of the cross.

[Carôusoul]

I sorry but this is how I feel. For almost a year I have been tormented with evil dreams which relatives say come from evil entities. This may be true. But is it normal for God to send you dreams constantly convicting you? When I say convicting, I don't mean just two or three times. It's been happening now for almost three months. For instance, I'll have a dream where God will continually warn me about Hell fire if I do not serve Him and His Son. I was thinking about what he said and at one point I even considered going back to church.(just so you know I was raised with religious beliefs) But as the convictions became more and more frequent, it really pushed me further away and now I don't think I'll ever go back again. What should I do? Sometimes I would just like to be myself but I feel like I can't because He was constantly on me. It's bad enough where I have been having dreams of the Devil being my counselor and telling me that I would meet him face to face(he was red with ram horns sitting behind a desk). Since that made me uncomfortable, I appreciate the fact if He were tring to save me but why would this loving fair God convict me and push me further away? Frankly it made me listen to the Devil/counselor even more. What do you make of this? Maybe the dreams are the creation of your mind influenced by these really rather sickening things you are taught as a christian child. And maybe in fact God isn't giving you these dreams. Have you considered leaning towards a more agnostic standpoint on god?

[Nazzul]

I wasn't trying to debate but I will now. Let me tell you a little about my self. I'm a deist. Its a philosophy that God put things all in motion, and that the bible should be meant to be taken as a philosophy other than taken literally. That is the gospel of Matt. Matt. 27:46,50 (see also Mark 15:34): "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, 'Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?' that is to say, 'My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?' ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost." Luke 23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, 'Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:' and having said thus, he gave up the ghost." John 19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, 'It is finished:' and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost." So by reasonably equating John's "giving up" of the spirit with total event of the final cry, the problem is resolved. We need only recognize that John is focusing on what Jesus said that was not shouted publicly - the plea of thirst, the statement of completion, and the turning over of responsibility for Jesus' mother to John. This fits in with his station at the foot of the cross. What does that have to show how Jesus had true happines from being nailed to a piece of wood? ST. Matthew 28, 52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose. Don't forget about the prophet zombies that always gets a giggle out of me I wonder if they wanted to eat the brains of the non belivers. See I can make up my own determinations on what the bible means to. I understand that youve been indoctrinated into thinking that this old book made by a bunch of different people is the word of some divine god. The bible has to be right because it says it is right? I mean thats what people have told you when you were young so they have to be right.

[Windstorm]

I have nothing against anyone or their beliefs. But sometimes it's just too much for a person to bear. You may not believe this but it has gotten to the point that I was considering running away. I tried talking civil with my mom but that didn't work. All that she did was convict me even worse. The sad part about it is that I was considering going back to church but because of this I have changed my mind. There are unbelivers out there who could care less about this stuff and they are having their fun, so why can't I?. All that I want is a normal life but how can I acheive this with all these spirits doing this to me. Frankly sometimes I am mad at my mom for raising me up in religion and I think that it's not fair just because she may want to engage in depressing spiritual warfare with the Devil doesn't mean that I want to be raised doing the same. It feels so good sharing what I am going through with others(although to you it may seem simple, if not even laughable but to me it is pure turmoil). Sometimes I feel that I'm losing it. If I ever decide to trust God again, I'm sure gonna need a lot of convincing.

[Carôusoul]

I have nothing against anyone or their beliefs. But sometimes it's just too much for a person to bear. You may not believe this but it has gotten to the point that I was considering running away. I tried talking civil with my mom but that didn't work. All that she did was convict me even worse. The sad part about it is that I was considering going back to church but because of this I have changed my mind. There are unbelivers out there who could care less about this stuff and they are having their fun, so why can't I?. All that I want is a normal life but how can I acheive this with all these spirits doing this to me. Frankly sometimes I am mad at my mom for raising me up in religion and I think that it's not fair just because she may want to engage in depressing spiritual warfare with the Devil doesn't mean that I want to be raised doing the same. It feels so good sharing what I am going through with others(although to you it may seem simple, if not even laughable but to me it is pure turmoil). Sometimes I feel that I'm losing it. If I ever decide to trust God again, I'm sure gonna need a lot of convincing. Do you believe God exists or not?