Thread: Caradon's Dream Journal

good set of lucids there mate! its good how you stopped the pain, I bet that knowledge will be usefull in the future

I bet the music dream was great! sounds like a nice scene to

lol at all the reality checks in that last one! sometimes you have to do loads before we can actually convince ourselves lol at the part with your sister

Originally Posted by Caradon

I lay there in bed thinking about this newest little WILD, when I do a random reality check. And I can breath! I'm like no way, it cant be! I pinch my nose and I can still breath.Knowing I must be dreaming, I'm still having a hard time comprehending it, because everything is so perfectly real.

Ahhh, those are the best! The dreams in which you think you're awake, reflecting on your latest dream and then discover you aren't. Love that feeling of 'wtf, this is a dream too, it looked so real...'

Excited, I pull the covers back and get up out of bed. I can see dog laying there sleeping. I walk over to the light-switch to see if it works. The first time I flip it, the light does not come on. But I flip it again, and the light comes on. OK it didn't work the first time, thats a sure dreamsign. I pinch my nose again, and I can still breath.

You needed a lot of confirmation
Damn, the light switch only works the second time, that's something I should remember! I have often trouble with the lights in my dream-room. But it never came to mind to try the switch twice. Thanks for the idea!

I tell my sister it's a dream. I stand right over her with my nose pinched, so she can clearly see it's pinched. And start breathing in and out really hard. And tell her to look I can breath through a pinched nose. She gets pissed off and tells me to get away from her, accusing me of blowing boogers on her lol. Then I abruptly wake up.

Hahaha, trying to convince a DC that it is a dream... waste of time usually (although I had a lucid last night, in which the DC knew very well it was all a dream and looked like he was convincing me )

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

No I didn't mean when you are awake, I do know how to do that even tho I don't like to. I meant when I WILD (really WILD, not those that I think I am but I'm probably just dreaming that I am), I get stuck in my body! I know Clairity says to roll out, but even that's hard. You seem to just jump right up. I'm afrad I'll wake up. I guess I'll just have to try it.

Oh, I know very well what you mean. Feeling tired and/or being afraid to destroy your lucid when you get up. What I did lately, was keeping my nose pinched while I lay there, so I'm sure I don't loose my lucid. And then either slowly get up, or float on my back, out of the room. And by the time that works, I'm suddenly standing upright and walking.

Originally Posted by Caradon

Zombie attack

Heh. That was an intense dream. I like that you went around snapping their necks. Haha. At first, I was like "Why don't you just grab one of the weapons they are using?" But then I thought about it, and paralyzing them was much more efficient.

Originally Posted by Caradon

Todays WILD attempt
The first time I get anything, I hear a very loud knock, like somebody pounding on the wall really hard. It startles me, and I sit up thinking it was real. But since dog isn't barking or woken up, I know it was just in my head.

I hate that. That's one of the reasons I hardly try WILDing in complete silence. Usually when I get hypnogogic sound, it comes on as a suddenly loud noise of some kind, and scares the shit out of me.

Originally Posted by Caradon

Later, after another WBTB. In the blackness of my mind, I reach up and pull the corner of the blackness away, like it's some kind of thin cover over the dream scene.

That is a really cool image!

Originally Posted by Caradon

And tell her to look I can breath through a pinched nose. She gets pissed off and tells me to get away from her, accusing me of blowing boogers on her lol. Then I abruptly wake up.

LOL. Nice job on the lucid, man.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

I hate that. That's one of the reasons I hardly try WILDing in complete silence. Usually when I get hypnogogic sound, it comes on as a suddenly loud noise of some kind, and scares the shit out of me.

Heh. Sometimes when I'm trying to get to sleep I hear someone calling my name. lol. It wakes makes me wake up most times. Whenever I try to WILD lately, I get an image that makes my mind jump and then I sit there just looking at the back of my eyelids, fully aware of my surroundings. SUPER annoying.

Thanks for the comments! I don't have time to be on the computer right now, I'll make replies later.

EDIT: Changed my mind. I don't think I'll be sleeping tonight anyway, may as well be writing in my journal

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

No I didn't mean when you are awake, I do know how to do that even tho I don't like to. I meant when I WILD (really WILD, not those that I think I am but I'm probably just dreaming that I am), I get stuck in my body! I know Clairity says to roll out, but even that's hard. You seem to just jump right up. I'm afrad I'll wake up. I guess I'll just have to try it.

Oh I see what you mean. I'm guessing that this time it was easy because by the time I had the FA, I was sleeping for real and had entered a real dream, beyond the flimsy wild kind.

Originally Posted by mark

good set of lucids there mate! its good how you stopped the pain, I bet that knowledge will be usefull in the future

Thanks, I'm not worried about dream pain. But at least I know I can easily get over it if I need to.

Originally Posted by mark

I bet the music dream was great! sounds like a nice scene to.

Yeah I like getting music HI.

Originally Posted by mark

lol at all the reality checks in that last one! sometimes you have to do loads before we can actually convince ourselves lol at the part with your sister

Yeah, there were two reasons I needed so many reality checks, even though I was already quite sure I was dreaming.

#1 This month has been pretty dry for good Lucids. When it's been a while, it always takes more convincing.

#2 I have had very few experiences overcoming false awakenings, and being Lucid in my own house. So the combination of the two made it extra hard to comprehend. But as soon as I pinched my nose the first time, and I could breath. I knew there was no way I was going to let myself decide it wasn't a dream, without good proof that it wasn't. But I wanted to have no doubt at all, before doing something that would be stupid in the waking world.

Originally Posted by Sara

Ahhh, those are the best! The dreams in which you think you're awake, reflecting on your latest dream and then discover you aren't. Love that feeling of 'wtf, this is a dream too, it looked so real...'

yeah, that's so strange.

Originally Posted by Sara

Originally Posted by Sara

Hahaha, trying to convince a DC that it is a dream... waste of time usually (although I had a lucid last night, in which the DC knew very well it was all a dream and looked like he was convincing me )

Well, I don't agree that convincing DC's it's a dream, is a waste of time. Some of the most fun and memorable Lucids I ever had were the ones in which I had Lucid DC's with me. Convincing them is a lot like everything else you do in a dream. When you expect they won't believe you, Then they are harder to convince. But it gets easier when you do it a lot.

I once convinced the entire dream world they were dreaming! The word just kind of spread. And before I knew it, they all thought I was some kind of messiah that had come into their world to tell them the truth about their reality. I was pretty surprised by that reaction lol.

I've found that the best way to convince them, is to ask them if they will believe you if you do such and such impossible thing that could only be done in a dream. If they say yes, then do it. I convinced my first DC by asking him if he would believe me if I walked up the side of the wall and across the ceiling.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

Heh. That was an intense dream. I like that you went around snapping their necks. Haha. At first, I was like "Why don't you just grab one of the weapons they are using?" But then I thought about it, and paralyzing them was much more efficient.

Yeah, snapping their necks was really quick and easy at the time.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

I hate that. That's one of the reasons I hardly try WILDing in complete silence. Usually when I get hypnogogic sound, it comes on as a suddenly loud noise of some kind, and scares the shit out of me.

LOl, I know what you mean. That happens to me a lot too. But most of the time I'll just start hearing somebody talking. A lot of times their voices will just kind of fade in.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

That is a really cool image!

LOL. Nice job on the lucid, man.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Pancaka

Heh. Sometimes when I'm trying to get to sleep I hear someone calling my name. lol. It wakes makes me wake up most times.

Yeah, I get that too. Somebody will suddenly shout my name really loud. It's very strange.

Friendly fish
Driving down the road in my car. there is a lake near by, and I can see giant beavers swimming. Eventually the road I'm on turns into a wide creek. I remember canoing down this creek with a friend before. It lead to some crazy adventure. It was actually a memory from another dream I had a long time ago. years ago I think.

The car sinks into the creek, I get out and I'm wading down it. There are strange animals swimming below the surface of the water. As well as beavers. The creek twists around in a really strange way that's impossible to describe. I look straight down into the the water, and I see this exotic looking red fish. The fish sees me looking down at it, and it swims up to the surface. It does not stop at the surface, but swims right through the air and tries to nuzzle my face in a friendly way. It kind of freaks me out, and I keep trying to avoid the thing. But it's persistent.

Shuttle launch
A really strange dream that I was watching the whole time, I didn't take part in it at all.
It jumped around a lot, but I'll describe a little of it.

There are two brothers going on a mission into space, on the shuttle. Before they can launch, they want this woman to come and see them off. She is some kind of space shuttle mascot that became a tradition over time, to see off all the missions.

Dream shifts into the past, and I'm watching The woman as a little girl, and how she came to be the shuttle mascot. She was just a spectator at a shuttle launch with her parents. there was some high ranking government official that came to see off the launch. On the spur of the moment, he decides to bring the girl onto the shuttle with him. A lot of weird stuff goes on, her talking to the pilots and such. After that, she became like a good luck charm, and she would come to see off each shuttle flight throughout her entire life.

Shuttle takes off, and the two brothers are doing all sorts of weird science experiments in space. As the mission progresses over time, one of the brothers starts to go insane. He thinks he has connected with the spirit of god in space, and slides down a slippery slope of insanity. The last image I remember of the dream, is the insane brother in his room on the ship. he has candles burning all over the place, and crosses all over the walls. He has some kind of scripture in his hand, pounding on it and screaming about sinners of the world or what ever, I don't know. But it was very apparent that the guy was about to become a dangerously violent fanatic.

Caradon, I couldn't sleep, so I got back up--for some reason both of those dreams are so hilarious to me right now. Thanks.

Hmm, strange dreams, but then I guess who's dreams aren't strange. I had some fun reading them. Read some of mine if you'd like at http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=55032. I'm new to Dreamviews so I don't have many entries yet.

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

Caradon, I couldn't sleep, so I got back up--for some reason both of those dreams are so hilarious to me right now. Thanks.

LOL, they are pretty funny. I'm pretty wide awake too. but I better try and get to sleep since I have to be up for work in three and a half hours from now.

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Originally Posted by Caradon

LOL, they are pretty funny. I'm pretty wide awake too. but I better try and get to sleep since I have to be up for work in three and a half hours from now.

Oh crap, I hope you get some sleep.

Maybe it's your chronic sleep deprivation that makes you so good at dreaming. You're sort of on that polyphasic schedule, maybe not on purpose.

By the time you read this, you'll probably have had your nap-WILD.

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

Oh crap, I hope you get some sleep.

Maybe it's your chronic sleep deprivation that makes you so good at dreaming. You're sort of on that polyphasic schedule, maybe not on purpose.

By the time you read this, you'll probably have had your nap-WILD.

AH!! My brother told me the most interesting thing today! We were discussing, briefly, some things about lucid dreaming and he brought up Isaac Newton. He said something about him sitting in a chair, holding a rock above a metal bucket and depriving himself of sleep. Whenever he fell asleep, the rock would fall from his hand and wake him up and he would repeat it until he could enter different dream states...That's what he said, but I don't want to look it up right now.

Editx LOL! I forgot to mention something EXTREMELY (not really) important. I drew a couple of REALLY cool zombie pictures yesterday and this morning and idk, hopefully I'll be able to get them on the computer and post them here. Your zombie dreams are AMAZING!!!

Originally Posted by Caradon

Friendly fish

ha ha great! I love the over friendly fish and the fact that it freaks you out. do you think that is because its like one of a tiny few animals that dont attack you

Originally Posted by Caradon

Shuttle launch

Also a cool dream, anything to do with space is good. its mad how he turned into some extrimest!

Originally Posted by Pancaka

AH!! My brother told me the most interesting thing today! We were discussing, briefly, some things about lucid dreaming and he brought up Isaac Newton. He said something about him sitting in a chair, holding a rock above a metal bucket and depriving himself of sleep. Whenever he fell asleep, the rock would fall from his hand and wake him up and he would repeat it until he could enter different dream states...That's what he said, but I don't want to look it up right now.

I heard the same thing about Henry Ford, or maybe Thomas Edison. I'm pretty sure Edison claimed to hardly sleep, but he was always nodding off, so he wasn't actually very good at not sleeping.

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

I heard the same thing about Henry Ford, or maybe Thomas Edison. I'm pretty sure Edison claimed to hardly sleep, but he was always nodding off, so he wasn't actually very good at not sleeping.

Maybe he was talking about Edison...Oh well, you get the point. It's interesting and stuff .

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

Oh crap, I hope you get some sleep.

Maybe it's your chronic sleep deprivation that makes you so good at dreaming. You're sort of on that polyphasic schedule, maybe not on purpose.

By the time you read this, you'll probably have had your nap-WILD.

I'm not even sure if I really slept at all. But I did get a little HI/WILD stuff.
If you mean the little WILDS? I don't know if it's the sleep deprivation, because I've always been able to do that regardless. As long as I'm motivated enough to force myself not to think, and pay attention as I fall asleep. I actually have a harder time staying aware, when I'm really tired though. The last couple of weeks I've gotten farther with it than I ever have before. Mostly because of being extra motivated and trying every time I go to sleep.

Maybe it's just a certain way I focus my mind, and listen. There are times when I feel like a can actually dig through the blackness and get into that HI place.

I know the REM rebound certainly helps with recall though. But I used to work nights years ago. And I would sleep from 4:00 am to noon every day. And I would be able to get Lucid a lot. But, my recall was naturally so much better back then. I would remember dreams all night long every night. And never wrote any of them down. Not even the Lucids. But once I stopped Lucid Dreaming, and eventually lost all recall for a couple of years. It's been a constant struggle to make sure I keep remembering dreams. I lose it with just a little bit of distraction.

Originally Posted by Pancaka

AH!! My brother told me the most interesting thing today! We were discussing, briefly, some things about lucid dreaming and he brought up Isaac Newton. He said something about him sitting in a chair, holding a rock above a metal bucket and depriving himself of sleep. Whenever he fell asleep, the rock would fall from his hand and wake him up and he would repeat it until he could enter different dream states...That's what he said, but I don't want to look it up right now.

Editx LOL! I forgot to mention something EXTREMELY (not really) important. I drew a couple of REALLY cool zombie pictures yesterday and this morning and idk, hopefully I'll be able to get them on the computer and post them here. Your zombie dreams are AMAZING!!!

I've heard of that rock falling from the hand thing before, though I don't remember where I heard it. I'm all for getting enough sleep though, If I didn't work early mornings I'd be getting plenty of sleep.

Thanks, Can't wait to see those Zombie drawings!

Originally Posted by mark

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ha ha great! I love the over friendly fish and the fact that it freaks you out. do you think that is because its like one of a tiny few animals that dont attack you


Also a cool dream, anything to do with space is good. its mad how he turned into some extrimest!

well it was freaky when that fish kept swimming right at my face.

I think that guy turned crazy because of a movie I saw I while back. It was called "SUNSHINE" I think. It was made by the same guy that made 28 weeks later. It was really good, these people are on a mission to reignite the sun. Not sure how that could even be possible. But it was a good intense movie. It was one of those movie's where once they overcome some Major disaster that nearly kills them all, they are immediately confronted by an even worse problem. There ended up being a guy that went crazy sort of like that.

A Little bit of WILD stuff
Last night, just trying to force myself to fall a sleep, I entered a work scene Lucid.
My boss was there, and I just spent a moment watching him, and trying to tell the difference between the DC boss and the real one.

Nap stuff
I was able to WILD into my nap a little bit, even though I was so tired. I propped myself up on pillows to make myself less comfortable.

I enter a very vivid scene with partial Lucidity. I'm in the parking lot of my work. It's snowing. I see this strange looking man. He is just looking off in the distance. He has a scraggly black beard, glasses, a red stocking cap,and a tan leather jacket on. He turns and looks at me. His mouth begins moving as if he is speaking, but no sound comes out. And I can see he has some missing teeth. As I watch him trying to speak, I become fully Lucid and slide back awake.

There was a couple other ones before I actually fell asleep, but I don't remember them to well. One I thought I was watching a movie, and the scene just changed to something unrelated, and I got confused by that. Became fully Lucid on slid back awake.

I lost the recall in my nap because of getting woken up quickly. I almost brought some back, but not quite.

You know you were tired, when your nap lasts for four hours, and it only felt like a couple of minutes.

Originally Posted by Caradon

You know you were tired, when your nap lasts for four hours, and it only felt like a couple of minutes.

Yea see, you are sleep deprived. I hope you get a good night's sleep soon.

WILDing seems to come easier and easier to you. Does the sleep deprivation have anything to do with it?

ah sunshine!!! such a brilliant movie! I know alot of people didnt like it but I thought it was such a brilliant piece of sci-fi especially the earth room.

I dont know how you survive on so little sleep mate

Oh yea I forgot about that movie; I wanted to se it too. I'll put it on the list.

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

Yea see, you are sleep deprived. I hope you get a good night's sleep soon.

Yeah I was yesterday, but I felt better today. A four hour nap, then about three hours before I went to work. So seven hours total for the day isn't to bad. I felt good until the last hour or so of working today. I plan to get a lot of sleep the next couple of days.

Originally Posted by raklet

WILDing seems to come easier and easier to you. Does the sleep deprivation have anything to do with it?

I don't think it does. Because I am better with it when I'm more awake. It just depends on how well I can focus at any given moment. It takes a lot of will power for me to do what I need to do.

I'm still having a hard time making the WILDS last more than about three seconds. I'm hoping with enough practice I will be able to start doing it after WBTB's, Like I have not been able to do in the past. I should have a much better chance of WILDing into a real dream, if I can start doing it that way.

Like the success I had in that one during my nap, after sleeping for two hours first.

Originally Posted by mark

ah sunshine!!! such a brilliant movie! I know alot of people didnt like it but I thought it was such a brilliant piece of sci-fi especially the earth room.

I dont know how you survive on so little sleep mate

Yeah, I almost didn't watch it after reading the member reviews on BLOCKBUSTER online. But I'm glad I did! I'm not sure why people didn't like it. Maybe it was just the far fetched idea of restarting the sun, I don't know.
But to me, it seemed like it had everything you could ask for in that style of movie.

Well it's only one or two days a week, where I get such a small amount of sleep.But I'm pretty good at putting it out of my mind, and not letting myself feel it. Until the end of my shift that is, and it all hits me at once.

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

Oh yea I forgot about that movie; I wanted to se it too. I'll put it on the list.

Let me know what you think of it.

Didn't remember a lot from last night.

Possible lost Lucid
I woke up at some point sure I had a Lucid to write. But when I thought about it, no Lucid came to mind. I think I must have been Lucid for me to wake up feeling that way.

Fragment
Another cool dream about a trail. I was on some Trail overgrown with tall grass. I was trying to push my way through. There was a dam on a river I was trying to make my way to.

There is a feeling I get when I'm on these trails in my dreams, that makes them very special. I can't explain it, But I love those dreams.



Fragment
I'm part of this cleanup/salvage team in some abandoned building. The floor gives out and we all fall deeper into the building. But i think That was something we were expecting to happen. Just a part of the routine.

Dungeons and dragons
I'm sitting around a table with some people. We are playing the game Dungeons and dragons. We are playing a story, and each player has to read out loud a part of the story when it's their turn. And decide from the events in the story, what their characters next actions will be. It's my turn and I feel a little uncomfortable reading out loud. I start reading, but I'm having a hard time. I can't read the sentences right, and the words I'm reading don't make any sense to me. I can barely say them without stumbling over my own words that sound like gibberish to me anyway. And I can't read the sentences in the right order. I keep looking at the wrong line and getting confused. I feel really embarrassed and stupid, that I can't read it. The other players give up on the game and walk away.

Should have noticed this as a dreamsign, but I usually don't have trouble reading in dreams. I think it was just my apprehension of reading out loud to the group that caused this to happen.

Todays WILD attempts
Last night
I hear a woman from work laughing, and a couple of other voices I don't remember what they said now. I then enter a work scene, my boss is there and I here him say something about going out for a drink after work. then I slide out of it. I don't remember if I did anything else.

In my nap
I hear women laughing again. Then I begin hearing some clicking sounds. That sounds to me like somebody playing the spoons. I then enter another work scene, somebody in a hurry is rushing towards me really fast. and I slide out of it.

My sleep is disturbed at this point, and I can't focus enough to get back into it again.
I start thinking about some BS from work today.