Thread: Smokin the Reefer

it doesn't have a negative effect for me. what does have a negative effect is alcohol and barbituates. You should take into account that it is different for everybody tho, so you should do your own little self experiment and write dilligently in your dream journal during it and see what kind of personal results you come up with.

Originally posted by Dreamers dont kill
Does smoking weed effect dream recall at all?

Yes. When I smoked regularly, my dream recall was pretty much zero. When I stopped, my recall came back almost immediately.

Like themindsi said, everyone is different. But I know that a lot of people are affected in this way by smoking pot.

bad for my recall, and bad for my motivation to dream

from when i started trying to recall till now ive made no progress whatso ever.. ive recalled a few dreams but thats it i dont recal lkthem regularly

so i guess i should stay off the weed for a while and see how it goes maybe ill make progress and quit all together (been wanting to quit for the school year)

thanks for your help guys

herb killed my recall. i quit and it came back pretty good. herb supresses REM but when your off it, you dream more. even while being off it my recall can suck sometimes untill i start again. it seems to go in cycles for me. when i recall a dream, if ive gone to bed high, my dreams are insane, vivid too.

I picked up some b6 today, tomorrow ill post whether it helped my recall despite my being high.

ive been using b6 to try and help regardless of the weed... it doesent really it worked the first night i used it but the second did nothing and the third it did nothing as well

i dont go to bed high ever... i smoke in the mourning before school or with my friends right after school and my recall is totaly zeeerrroooo

if you smoke before school, try taking a nap right after school, or if you smoke after school, get a nap after you've come down. I find taking a nap goes a long way in straightening me out. Also, smoking good pot helps. I find that really healthy looking pot doesn't burn me out as much, so i sleep less and dream more.

just be advised the high dosages of pyridoxine (B6) do show toxicity. 100mg/day is considered toxic (although that is really pushing it) as-in 'call poison control NOW toxic'.

recommended dosage (mg) is:

Females, 19-50 years

1.3

Males, 19-50 years

1.3

Females, >50 years

1.5

Males, >50 years

1.7

Pregnancy

1.9

Lactation

2.0


REF: Food and Nutrition Board, Institute of Medicine/National Academy of Sciences-National Research Council. 1998. Dietary Reference Intake: Folate, Other B Vitamins, and Choline. Washington, D.C., National Academy Press.


NOTE: I'm not a medical doctor. But I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express once. And I did save a bunch of money on my car insurance.

that cant be true.... ive taken way more then 100mg and if a 100mg is toxic why is each pill 100mg?! that cant be right

[shrug] As I said - I'm not a doctor. I just go by what the authorities who are have to say about it. The complete table:

Recommended nutrient intakes for vitamin B6

Group

Recommended nutrient intake mg/day


Infants and children






0-6 months

0.1




7-12 months

0.3




1-3 years

0.5




4-6 years

0.6




7-9 years

1.0


Adolescents, 10-18 years

1.2 1.3




Females






Males




Adults






Females, 19-50 years

1.3




Males, 19-50 years

1.3




Females, >50 years

1.5




Males, >50 years

1.7


Pregnancy

1.9


Lactation

2.0

kimpossible was just giving the "recommended" dosage -- the amount that you should have each day to remain healthy. That has nothing to do with the maximum amount that you can take before suffering any ill effects.

actually, I gave the 100mg max dosage as suggested by the F&NB as well, the level where toxicity risks become too high.

I went after additional sources which concurred. So I posted it. I try to check my work...

Since this thread is about reefer, I think a few of us do worse things to our bodies than having a little extra B6

Originally posted by Dangeruss
Since this thread is about reefer, I think a few of us do worse things to our bodies than having a little extra B6

Agreed... like me smoking the reefer every now and then, or Leo chugging the coffee. heh.

I almost always have some weird and vivid dreams when I go to sleep high. I think the problem is that you start remembering less when you smoke but the dreams are still there.

I suppose if one were to keep score, there are more Dreamers who have quit or who are quitting then those who continue to get High on the supposition that it is doing them any good.

One of the amusing sub-texts from the Teaching of the famous Guru and purported Avatar Sri Ramakrishna was that the World was something of a battlefield where the Alcholics contended with the Hashist Smokers for Power and Influence. And this is how bad it is to smoke marajuana, that the Alcoholics seem to be able to function so much better.

Yes, marajuana contains a euphoric agent -- it makes one artificially happy, even when there is nothing in particular to be happy about. But it is hard to argue against Happiness. But there are other less appealling effects -- disintegration of focus and degradation of memory. many people claim a Spiritual Effect from getting high, claiming that Stoned people are less Egotistical. This may be so, but only because the entire structure of the Persona falls under attack. Stoned people have less Ego only because they have less of everything else also.

I can hardly see how being happy, ... euphoric... , could make up for all that is so detrimental. I'd rather be serious and competent. Happiness, like sex, is way over-rated. Look at all of the great accomplishments in Culture and Civilization and consider how few of them were pursued for the sake of silly grins.

well its still a miracle drug no matter what you say... but if it fucks with my dreams then i think ill lay off it for a while

Why get high? Because it makes everything great! What better way to waste a boring day in the suburbs?

Originally posted by Dangeruss
Why get high? Because it makes everything great! What better way to waste a boring day in the suburbs?

Maybe by applying yourself? Accomplishing something worthwhile? Furthering your education? Creating something?

Putting a .45 in your mouth and seeing how many times you can pull the trigger on reflexive action?

Just some thoughts, since you went to the trouble to ask and all. . .

I do all those things while high, except for the .45 one. I haven't tried that yet.

You only think you do. Or atleast you would think you did, if you could be bothered to even think about it.

Here's a cookie, good boy.

Originally posted by Dangeruss
I do all those things while high, except for the .45 one. I haven't tried that yet.

yeah and that stuff makes it EVEN MORE fun..

Originally posted by Dreamers dont kill
well its still a miracle drug no matter what you say... but if it fucks with my dreams then i think ill lay off it for a while

Well, no, not really. Marajuana is not a 'drug' at all -- not anything that was designed for effect -- but an accident of nature. Its impact is mixed. yes, it has euphoric properties, but it also stupifies and depresses the motor functions while releasing all retention of memory and attention.

So, yes, it is quite perfect.... if you want to be a happy idiot. Get a Poster of Jay Dog and look at it carefully before the next time you light up.