Thread: Atheist Experience (t.v. show Austin)

I have never seen the show and never heard of it until I just read your post, but I already want to jump into the T.V. screen and argue with the callers. Those questions you posted really got me going. They have all been answered a lot of times in the Religion forum, but I want to answer them again!

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

I have never seen the show and never heard of it until I just read your post, but I already want to jump into the T.V. screen and argue with the callers. Those questions you posted really got me going. They have all been answered a lot of times in the Religion forum, but I want to answer them again!

http://www.atheist-community.org/faq/

Here is the Faq with the members of the ACA's most general answers.

Thanks for the link. Watching an episode now.

Of course Atheist hate God, besides why would they dish out such derogatory comments if they don't believe that he exist.

Originally Posted by Sandform

http://www.atheist-community.org/faq/

Here is the Faq with the members of the ACA's most general answers.

All right, I feel better now. Those are some awesome answers. However, I was a little frustrated by how they answered to Pascal's wager without ever making the point that belief is not a choice. Also, they talked about fairies and stuff but never mentioned the Flying Spaghetti Monster. That is just wrong. Other than that, they did a great job.

Originally Posted by Ne-yo

Of course Atheist hate God, besides why would they dish out such derogatory comments if they don't believe that he exist.

We get frustrated by illogical beliefs that control our society, not God. Do you hate the Great Pumpkin? If Great Pumpkin worshippers made asinine comments about you all the time and made absurd laws that affect your life in the name of the Great Pumpkin, you would be inclined to argue with Great Pumpkin worshippers. It would not mean you hate the Great Pumpkin.

Atheists don't believe in God, so how could we possibly hate him?

I thought Ne-yo was being fallacious...hehe.

Originally Posted by Sandform

I thought Ne-yo was being fallacious...hehe.

I know Ne-Yo's history of posting here. He is exactly the kind of person that show is aimed at.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

We get frustrated by illogical beliefs that control our society, not God. Do you hate the Great Pumpkin? If Great Pumpkin worshippers made asinine comments about you all the time and made absurd laws that affect your life in the name of the Great Pumpkin, you would be inclined to argue with Great Pumpkin worshippers. It would not mean you hate the Great Pumpkin.

Atheists don't believe in God, so how could we possibly hate him?

Nice argument.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

I know Ne-Yo's history of posting here. He is exactly the kind of person that show is aimed at.

Ah, well I'm not really sure that the show is aimed at non atheists, though they encourage them to call in, and even eat dinner with them (as long as they don't want to preach blah blah blah)

The show is more about A) providing a forum for atheists to speak with each other and try to provide better opportunities for free though in the world, and B) To clear up misconceptions.

Ne-yo is probably B, but I would say it is way more for Atheists than non-atheists.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

We get frustrated by illogical beliefs that control our society, not God. Do you hate the Great Pumpkin? If Great Pumpkin worshippers made asinine comments about you all the time and made absurd laws that affect your life in the name of the Great Pumpkin, you would be inclined to argue with Great Pumpkin worshippers. It would not mean you hate the Great Pumpkin.

Atheists don't believe in God, so how could we possibly hate him?

Frustrated you say? I don't buy that UM, you're in no way frustrated over society and it's absured laws, however I am but I deal with it. I don't care for the great pumpkin nor do I wish to spend anytime thinking or debating with people on it's existence rather true or false. Why should I even entertain it or spend the energy? Besides (I'm not trying to be harsh) but this is true, all I've seen you do is complain about this and about that. Where does that get you? Why don't you take action? On another note, you don't know enough about me and my background to even begin to fathom how I think and understand what is and what's not directed toward me.

Originally Posted by Ne-yo

Of course Atheist hate God, besides why would they dish out such derogatory comments if they don't believe that he exist.

Of course Christians, Muslims, and Jews hate Odin and Thor, besides why would they have destroyed all those old temples and converted the pagans at swordpoint if they didn't believe that Odin and Thor existed.

Originally Posted by MrDoom

Of course Christians, Muslims, and Jews hate Odin and Thor, besides why would they have destroyed all those old temples and converted the pagans at swordpoint if they didn't believe that Odin and Thor existed.

What you're mentioning here is irrelevant, I'm a Christian and I don't recall even discussing Odin and Thor. Let's kick that one up a notch. How many Christians on this forum have you seen bad mouth Odin and Thor? Now how many Atheist on this forum have you seen bad mouth GOD?

I think you see the point now...

I hate blind faith (or I should say ignorance). Not God...

I also hate when people accept things as morally correct that are obviously horribly evil things...just because a book said some guy says it is true.

Originally Posted by Ne-yo

Now how many Atheist on this forum have you seen bad mouth GOD?

A few. So what? I bad mouth anime and manga characters that I hate. Do I believe they exist outside of their fictional bounds because of this? No. Am I held accountable for hate speech if someone REALLY likes the character? No.

It's a double standard. Bad mouth pagan deities and literary characters and it's innocent banter if someone likes that character. Bad mouth the Judeo-Christio-Islamic Deity and it's "offensive hate speech" if someone blows a whistle.

Originally Posted by MrDoom

A few. So what?

Wrong, not a few, try every single Atheist on this forum.

Originally Posted by MrDoom

I bad mouth anime and manga characters that I hate.

You serious? I think that pretty much says it all my friend.

Originally Posted by Ne-yo

You serious? I think that pretty much says it all my friend.

Omg, I wish there was a way to block commentary(From my view) from people. Ne-yo you aren't adding anything valuable to the thread. Your misunderstanding people and things, in fact I wish you would watch these movies.

Btw the only time an atheist ever says bad things about God is when a theist says something to the effect of "God is purity and completely good." We show them the contradiction in the character they believe in.

Originally Posted by Ne-yo

Wrong, not a few, try every single Atheist on this forum.

I have bad-mouthed your god?

You serious? I think that pretty much says it all my friend.

Yes. Literature and drama are supposed to evoke an emotional response from the audience. If you feel a certain way about a character, then the author has succeeded.

Originally Posted by Sandform

Omg, I wish there was a way to block commentary from people. Ne-yo you aren't adding anything valuable to the thread. Your misunderstanding people and things, in fact I wish you would watch these movies.

Btw the only time an atheist ever says bad things about God is when a theist says something to the effect of "God is purity and completely good." We show them the contradiction in the character they believe in.

So saying "Flying Spaghetti Monster" is helping show some light on how contridictory my beliefs are? Com'n Sandform you know what I'm talking about. Why are you people always trying to play the victim? Like you're walking around this Earth and everyone who is a Christian is out to beat you into a pulp when you know that's not the case.

Originally Posted by MrDoom

I have bad-mouthed your god?

You just arrived here, we'll see what happens.

Originally Posted by Ne-yo

So saying "Flying Spaghetti Monster" is helping show some light on how contridictory my beliefs are? Com'n Sandform you know what I'm talking about. Why are you people always trying to play the victim? Like you're walking around this Earth and everyone who is a Christian is out to beat you into a pulp when you know that's not the case.

Oh you mistake my comment, I wasn't saying ouchies stop insulting me, go away, I was saying, damn...you are just devoid of anything valuable or honest to say, I wish I could have a filter much like some people have filters for profane language.

Originally Posted by Ne-yo

Of course Atheist hate God, besides why would they dish out such derogatory comments if they don't believe that he exist.

First post made to provoke.

Originally Posted by Ne-yo

Frustrated you say? I don't buy that UM, you're in no way frustrated over society and it's absured laws, however I am but I deal with it. I don't care for the great pumpkin nor do I wish to spend anytime thinking or debating with people on it's existence rather true or false. Why should I even entertain it or spend the energy? Besides (I'm not trying to be harsh) but this is true, all I've seen you do is complain about this and about that. Where does that get you? Why don't you take action? On another note, you don't know enough about me and my background to even begin to fathom how I think and understand what is and what's not directed toward me.

Telling someone what they believe.

Originally Posted by Ne-yo

What you're mentioning here is irrelevant, I'm a Christian and I don't recall even discussing Odin and Thor. Let's kick that one up a notch. How many Christians on this forum have you seen bad mouth Odin and Thor? Now how many Atheist on this forum have you seen bad mouth GOD?

I think you see the point now...

Again, we aren't bad mouthing God like he is an actual being. When someone says <blank person> is pure and good and everything right, we have to point out that their little book contradicts this view.

Originally Posted by Ne-yo

Wrong, not a few, try every single Atheist on this forum.




You serious? I think that pretty much says it all my friend.

Again, just made to provoke "that pretty much says it all." Though it says nothing to help your case.

Originally Posted by Ne-yo

So saying "Flying Spaghetti Monster" is helping show some light on how contridictory my beliefs are? Com'n Sandform you know what I'm talking about. Why are you people always trying to play the victim? Like you're walking around this Earth and everyone who is a Christian is out to beat you into a pulp when you know that's not the case.

Yeah again, saying what people believe without evidence. And FSM is showing the contradictory when people's proof is that you can't prove he doesn't exist.

Originally Posted by Ne-yo

You just arrived here, we'll see what happens.

Just more useless mouth vomit.

Originally Posted by Sandform

First post made to provoke.

How is that made to provoke when you're the one who threw it out there? I just followed up on it.

Simple misunderstandings


Do you hate God?

Originally Posted by Sandform

Telling someone what they believe.

And where exactly did I tell UM what he believes? I recall saying "I don't buy that". How can you take that as me telling him what he believes? You may want to retract that one. Unless you care to eloborate on it.

Originally Posted by Sandform

Again, we aren't bad mouthing God like he is an actual being. When someone says <blank person> is pure and good and everything right, we have to point out that their little book contradicts this view.

Please I can't even begin to tell you how many times I've seen an Atheist say some horrific statements about my GOD and in no way is it implying any form of contridictions, it's just plain hatred. You want to challange that one?

Originally Posted by Sandform

Again, just made to provoke "that pretty much says it all." Though it says nothing to help your case.

I guess you couldn't see the entire point of his statment huh? He was trying to give a reference indicating his feelings toward fictional characters and how he feels about them, knowing good and well that they don't exist which can be proven, on the contray my GOD's existence cannot be disproven. The relevance of his statment is minimal by far.

Originally Posted by Sandform

Yeah again, saying what people believe without evidence.

Let's entertain this one for a moment. So what exactly do you believe?

Originally Posted by Sandform

Just more useless mouth vomit.

Your opinion.

Originally Posted by Ne-yo

How is that made to provoke when you're the one who threw it out there? I just followed up on it.






And where exactly did I tell UM what he believes? I recall saying "I don't buy that". How can you take that as me telling him what he believes? You may want to retract that one. Unless you care to eloborate on it.




Please I can't even begin to tell you how many times I've seen an Atheist say some horrific statements about my GOD and in no way is it implying any form of contridictions, it's just plain hatred. You want to challange that one?




I guess you couldn't see the entire point of his statment huh? He was trying to give a reference indicating his feelings toward fictional characters and how he feels about them, knowing good and well that they don't exist which can be proven, on the contray my GOD's existence cannot be disproven. The relevance of his statment is minimal by far.

1. No you didn't. You made a misstatement. Now either you can own up to that or you can continue to be impudent.

2. You literally told him that he did not believe what he said. You said "I don't buy that UM, you're in no way frustrated over society and it's absured laws".

3. Yes. You assert your god is real. We okay then, if he is then he is quite an asshole.

It's called accepting the other viewpoint for discussional purposes-- You should try it sometime.

4. There is absolutely no way you can know that a character that someone made up in a book does not exist.

So their existence cannot be negated.

So then by your logic they are real?

No, of course not.