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      Pachelbel's Canon in D -Minor-

      Yes. D Minor. Not D Major. If you've studied music theory before, you'll know that pretty much any song written in the diatonic scales can be converted between major and natural minor scales.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwnSv...related&fmt=18 (Includes cute anime figures)

      Haunting indeed.


      *I'm sorry...I don't know where to post this, so I just posted it here.
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      Interesting find! I love Pachelbel's Canon - it was my wedding processional song (along with just about everyone else's ). It does take on a haunting quality in the minor key. Thanks for posting it

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      This made me laugh....

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdxkVQy7QLM

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      I love Pachelbel's Canon, it's one of my favorite songs, if not my favourite. I like the background in D Minor, but the woodwinds just sound awful. I think I heard a version of this once that had the part here on organ and cello in minor and the smaller strings and woodwinds in major, and it sounding both haunting and beautiful at the same time.

      Just finishing listening to the comedian. He's hilarious. (Yeah, it's always terrible when you have not a song, but a particular rigg or series of chords stuck in your head that's commonly used)
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      Very haunting, i love how i turned out...

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      Quote Originally Posted by JET73L View Post
      I love Pachelbel's Canon, it's one of my favorite songs, if not my favourite. I like the background in D Minor, but the woodwinds just sound awful.
      I think I heard a version of this once that had the part here on organ and cello in minor and the smaller strings and woodwinds in major, and it sounding both haunting and beautiful at the same time.
      I'm not a musician, so correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't a combination of major and minor of the same key cause the extremely ugly sound when two notes exactly one full tone apart are played?

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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      I'm not a musician, so correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't a combination of major and minor of the same key cause the extremely ugly sound when two notes exactly one full tone apart are played?
      Not necessarily. When used in a chord, the note that's a full tone apart can make the chord a 'color tone'. Color tones can 'spice up' music by making them sound more elegant.

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      Quote Originally Posted by PR0G4P4RV18 View Post
      Not necessarily. When used in a chord, the note that's a full tone apart can make the chord a 'color tone'. Color tones can 'spice up' music by making them sound more elegant.
      I watched the video, and I could hear the color tones. Quite frankly, in my opinion, they always sounded bad and out of place. It doesn't just add imperfection, which can be a good thing; it adds ugly sounds, at least to my ears.

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      @ Drewmandan: It can sound really bad, and usually does if one doesn't know exactly what their doing, or is improvising, but certain things that would normally clash tend to sound really good when they do go well together. I'm more used to cooking analogies than musical examples, but (how I look at it) is that bitter, spicy, and sweet tend to clash too much to go well together, but a lot of people really like candied ginger. If it doesn't fit, it's going to sound bad, but if it does, it can sound excellent, sometimes (opinion) better than the original version.

      Also, note that I said "I think." I doubt I was mistaken, but it's quite possible that I was.
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      Here's a good rendition of Canon in D minor, without annoying japanese attempts at singing (requires plugin):

      http://www.sibeliusmusic.com/cgi-bin...?scoreid=69505

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      here is my fave version, its matt rach's cannon rock.

      http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LDWf9ALiIOA

      the guy on the guitar isnt matt rach by the way, its not me either (i wish). its just a random person on youtube.

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      Quote Originally Posted by slash112 View Post
      here is my fave version, its matt rach's cannon rock.

      http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LDWf9ALiIOA

      the guy on the guitar isnt matt rach by the way, its not me either (i wish). its just a random person on youtube.
      That's D major! Why can't people tell the difference?!

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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      That's D major! Why can't people tell the difference?!
      oh, woops, sorry. i didnt study music by the way.
      its still my fave version.

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      I havnt been able to find any other D minor versions besides this one, Drew's didnt work for me, even with the plugin. Any other links would be appreciated.

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      Quote Originally Posted by no-name View Post
      I havnt been able to find any other D minor versions besides this one, Drew's didnt work for me, even with the plugin. Any other links would be appreciated.
      Did you successfully install the plugin? Did you see the scorch window? What version of firefox are you using?

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      I'm not a musician, so correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't a combination of major and minor of the same key cause the extremely ugly sound when two notes exactly one full tone apart are played?
      No not really, a tone is really quite a nice interval.

      However, a semitone, which is the interval between a major and minor third, is very clashy, and would not sound good.

      A minor fourth is about as bad, but this does not appear in either the major or minor scale.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      No not really, a tone is really quite a nice interval.

      However, a semitone, which is the interval between a major and minor third, is very clashy, and would not sound good.

      A minor fourth is about as bad, but this does not appear in either the major or minor scale.
      Semitone is what I meant. Still, I can't imagine two instruments playing the same piece, one in major and one in minor. That would sound positively awful.

      EDIT: Just tried it. I synchronized the major and minor versions. Sounded AWFUL.
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      It doesn't really make sense to be honest. You're in one key or you're not, most music theorists don't accept multiple chords.

      Relative minors use the same notes though, so there wouldn't be any difference... but yeah, the whole question is meaningless really.

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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      I watched the video, and I could hear the color tones. Quite frankly, in my opinion, they always sounded bad and out of place. It doesn't just add imperfection, which can be a good thing; it adds ugly sounds, at least to my ears.
      Yea, it's like those guys who play pianos in malls and stuff. I think they throw those in there to sound fancy, and I always thought it ruined the beautiful music

      Anyway I like the minor, except for that singing in the background, it's just obnoxious There's probably a version without that someone posted but I can't look through the whole thread.

      I also really liked the guy with the guitar ranting about the song You know... he does have a point...
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      Quote Originally Posted by Shift View Post
      Yea, it's like those guys who play pianos in malls and stuff. I think they throw those in there to sound fancy, and I always thought it ruined the beautiful music

      Anyway I like the minor, except for that singing in the background, it's just obnoxious There's probably a version without that someone posted but I can't look through the whole thread.
      Dude seriously? It's like 5 posts up. You simply must hear the minor without the crappy singing. I don't want anyone to not think the minor is far superior just because of some poor attempts at singing. Because it is superior. The major sounds very simplistic in its mood in comparison.

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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      Dude seriously? It's like 5 posts up. You simply must hear the minor without the crappy singing. I don't want anyone to not think the minor is far superior just because of some poor attempts at singing. Because it is superior. The major sounds very simplistic in its mood in comparison.
      Man, I tried! I just spent like 10 min trying to get the plugin to work. Let me know if you find it anywhere else, because I really would like to hear it!
      Trust me, I think it sounds awesome. Just those obnoxious singers. Why must people always ruin good things with stupid accessories.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Shift View Post
      Man, I tried! I just spent like 10 min trying to get the plugin to work. Let me know if you find it anywhere else, because I really would like to hear it!
      Trust me, I think it sounds awesome. Just those obnoxious singers. Why must people always ruin good things with stupid accessories.
      What, specifically, is the problem? I know that for me it took a good minute after clicking the installer for the plugin for it to actually begin the install.

      And no, I can't find it anywhere else on the whole internet. It seems there are millions of people out there that post the major thinking it's the minor. Sad, really.

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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      Did you successfully install the plugin? Did you see the scorch window? What version of firefox are you using?
      Same problem shift is having, not my computer, and IE. :\

      off topic, the program used to make it was (if im not mistaken) Vocaloid

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      Quote Originally Posted by no-name View Post
      Same problem shift is having, not my computer, and IE. :\
      But neither of you have actually explained the actual problem yet. And you have to use firefox probably.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      A minor fourth is about as bad, but this does not appear in either the major or minor scale.
      A minor fourth is the same as a major third. A major third, in layman's terms, is a happy interval that is not clashing at all.
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