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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      You said you wanted to ban private schools. So you want to ban people from privately educating others in exchange for money.
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      Three wrongs don't make a right:

      1)The family of the victim gets no monetary restitution whatsoever, even though they should be entitled, given they've suffered and lost a source of income.

      2)The murderer is killed, thus preventing him from recovering from the emotional trauma that led him to kill.

      3)The taxpayer is fucked as they have to pay the huge costs associated with execution.

      Actually, this argument also applies for putting people in cages. Ideally (and in a free society), the murderer would have to pay or work restitution to the family and they would need to go through an actual rehabilitation program. And rehabilitation doesn't involve being locked in cages with other violent people who want to rape you...

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      Quote Originally Posted by cmind View Post
      Three wrongs don't make a right:

      1)The family of the victim gets no monetary restitution whatsoever, even though they should be entitled, given they've suffered and lost a source of income.

      2)The murderer is killed, thus preventing him from recovering from the emotional trauma that led him to kill.

      3)The taxpayer is fucked as they have to pay the huge costs associated with execution.

      Actually, this argument also applies for putting people in cages. Ideally (and in a free society), the murderer would have to pay or work restitution to the family and they would need to go through an actual rehabilitation program. And rehabilitation doesn't involve being locked in cages with other violent people who want to rape you...
      Well no but we also don't know how to rehabilitate every type of murderer.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnis Dei View Post
      Well no but we also don't know how to rehabilitate every type of murderer.
      Has psychology at least advanced to the stage where we can definitively say that putting them in cages with other violent criminals probably won't make them less violent?

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      Quote Originally Posted by cmind View Post
      Has psychology at least advanced to the stage where we can definitively say that putting them in cages with other violent criminals probably won't make them less violent?
      I agree. The Justice System is being treated like a Financial Institution. Any action that expands and sustains the criminal population is being rewarded.

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