I got the impression that he was straw manning me because I never insinuating the fire department should be free, just that it should be a tax levy. Maybe I should have been more clear. But I don't care, that libertarian argument is simply ignorant. No one thinks there's such thing as free lunch. It's purely a misconception. The point is protection from fire should be the bottom line of a fire department, not profit. Same with health, education, law-enforcement, incarceration, etc. etc.