I acknowledge that keeping the baby brings up a whole new collection of problems, and that adoption is not the greatest solution in the world. |
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I know there are probably threads on this but I don't want to shift this into the Extended Discussion and everything gets nasty. |
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I acknowledge that keeping the baby brings up a whole new collection of problems, and that adoption is not the greatest solution in the world. |
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I have nothing again abortion and I think it's a right every woman should have. Everyone should be the master of their body. |
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April Ryan is my friend,
Every sorrow she can mend.
When i visit her dark realm,
Does it simply overwhelm.
I don't disagree that by killing a fetus, you are killing a life. |
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I believe a mentally impaired person is capable of thinking. Probably not as much as we do but that doesn't deny s/he is incapable of knowing what s/he likes. |
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Last edited by Carrot; 04-13-2012 at 07:04 PM.
the male should have a say so. i mean, if a woman wants to murder my child, i'd appreciate a little mutual respect in the relationship as far as at least thinking my property i.e seed, played some roll in the creation of said murdered baby. |
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You're right on the thing about mentally-impaired people, though I was talking about worst case scenarios. |
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It makes me very sad. |
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I have no opinion on the matter as I am a man. |
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I'm not opposed to abortion. A lot of people agree that abortion is cruel. However, in my opinion, keeping a child you know you can't raise or properly take care of can be just as cruel. |
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To me, "every life is sacred" has a the effect of placing quantity of life over quality of life. If a woman believes that she can provide a better life for her children in the future than she can in the present, and that having a child now will hinder her ability to give her future children the best that she can, than that is a good reason to have an abortion if she chooses. Not doing so may even be unfair to her future offspring. |
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The problem with this argument is that most of us don't remember our thoughts from the first few years of our lives, in addition to our time as a foetus. So where do you draw the line, where is an organism conscious enough for it to count as murder? |
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I'm having the assumption if you dabble with your subconscious, you'll be able to remember what happened when you're young. They're not gone, just buried. But I don't believe you'll be able to find thoughts you had as a fetus in your subconscious. Correct me if I'm wrong. |
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Forced abortions WILL NOT SOLVE A THING, and this is not an opinion. Have you heard of the Chinese One Child Policy? :/ |
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The mutual decision depends on the relationship. That's another element of the "pro-choice", the choice of the woman to value the input of the father or not. If there is a good relationship, she will. If not, he has no say. To Greenhavocs example, there's no such thing as "you don't have to lift a finger", pregnancy counts as lifting a finger. At least. |
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Personally I don't know, but it sounds like a reasonable point of view. The problem is, even when neuroscience has reached its peak and we know everything about the brain, it is fairly likely that the question 'when is a foetus conscious' will still only have an ambiguous answer. |
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I'm pro-choice, although it's a very impersonal idea for me. |
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April Ryan is my friend,
Every sorrow she can mend.
When i visit her dark realm,
Does it simply overwhelm.
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