Thread: music form

Originally posted by sephiroth clock
Note classical is composers in the Bach, Mozart, Beethove, Telemannish area. This does not include the romantics.

Actually this shouldn't include Bach (supposing that you're talking about Johan Sebastian) and Telemann, as they were baroque composers, not classical. Classical era was from 1750 to 1820 or so and its most important composers were propably Joseph Haydn, W.A. Mozart and Ludwig van Beethoven.

But if you're talking about classical music generally, including other music eras than classical, you should include at least baroque, classical and romantic music, even impressionistic.

I think I will then include Bach, and other baroque. But I don't consider any romantic music of the same form

You can't really consider baroque and classical music to be the same. Baroque is so much darker and heavier and massive whereas classical music is more light and bright. If you listen to something from Bach, and then Mozart, you'll see that they're as different as day and night. It's pretty much the same as with art styles.

Also, and this is minor but somewhat important, Beethoven is a particularly tricky area of categorization. His early stuff is more strictly classicly, the middle branches off a bit, and the later compositions show the beginnings of romanticism.

In broad categorizations though, it's alright to include early romantic and late baroque composers into the classic period.

But on topic.

I think the reason Classic music also has such an effect is the way it is structured. Classical music is very melody based, usually with familiar patterns of ABA in composition. It is also very organized, with few unusual note combinations or dissonant chords. However, the "main" music we listen to from the Classical era of music was done by extremely talented persons, which also affects the way this genre is perceived.

Not only were composers like Hadyn and Mozart very creative, they were also hard workers in their craft. This creates the aura of "perfection" associated with works of this era, and the compositions are often pleasing to the ear and relaxing--not to mention the most important of all which is that music from that era is still very enjoyable today. The timeless nature of the period is also a good testement to the classic style. In comparison, rock and rap songs of today will most likely not be as timeless, however "catchy" they are.

yes, I'm trying not to be too technical, within my classical music divisions. I am including baroque, namely for Bach. Classical is pretty inclusive, as long as there is a line drawn between the romantic, and the Classical period. I would say however that Beethoven is still within the classical.

I would agree with Joseph_Stalin on dissonance; classical music contains much less of it.

With distortion for electric guitars, and the many types of dissonance our ears are used to in this day and age, it's no wonder that classical music seems so natural and is so timeless.

Has anyone else heard of the studies showing that classical music aids developing brains? Is it bogus or what?

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I think that of all the forms of music, that classical music, triggers the best brain frequencies/connections/experience type of thing.[/b]

Can you explain this in more detail?

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That it is I hate to say it so braggingly but I guess I would put it the most spiritually advanced. It has the most healing potential, because it resonates the best form of freqeuncies.

I don't know how you are evaluating "spiritually advanced", but I would think that plain chant and classical Indian music would be much more advanced in this respect. Of course it is heavily dependent on the listener! For me, music with a more timeless quality is easier to meditate with, such as Perotin, Feldman, or Scelsi. I find music from the classical period to be too rooted in time and direction, but I don't think that's what you are talking about. Are you speaking more of a consciously directed spiritual experience or just the surface harmony/structure for healing purposes?

I think I would be talking about harmony/structure purposes for healing, and joyous experience. Classical music in general gives me the most joyous experience, out of all music styles. This is where it's form comes into play. I don't think I have the musical knowledge to define exactly how it works. It's the energetic reverberation of the strings in perfect resonating harmonies. Strings are definetly key to the music that I enjoy from this style, also choral is wonderful two. I think that some baroque would also qualify especially bach and his brandenburgs which are excellent. I definently think it's dependent on the listener, but classical music seems so harmoniously resonate, it's definetly has a very large audience.

Mostly what I'm talking about is joyous experience while listening to the music.

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slow music helps with learning!

when you put on "largo" music (veeeeeery slow music), just as loud so that you can JUST hear it, it activates some part in your brain, this piece of the brain is subconsious, you cant control it, and it tries to memorise the song, now when you learn something WHILE that other part is memorysing stuff, the stuff you learn will be memorised quicker...




slow music helps, consult your local music shop for further detail

Jazz and Soul music for me
Bob James, SOS band and Joyce Sims come to mind
I'm also listening to a lot of Neil Young recently too
which is kind of a change of tack for me

Yeah I love listening to classical music, but I have to be in the mood for it... It's awesome for listening to before you go to sleep in bed. Jazz is also great for that, but I'm curious as to whether anyone that listens to classical also listens to electronica?

I'm a big fan of electronica, and the first album I bought was by Autechre... when I first listened to it I was like "oh this is just dodgy computer noise" ... then I started to listen more, and from the dissonance and distortion and chaos a quite beautiful melody forms, it's rather strange. I like to think of it as an education in sound... the opposite of classical in that the melodies are distorted and jumbled.

I listen to electronica. I like boards of canada the most, but I also listen to auteche, aphex twin, and mouse on mars. Any BoC has got to be some of the most beautiful music I've ever heard, even though at first it did sound like "dodgy computer noise"