Thread: Found 5th Dimension

I believe that makes it 4d and 5d has something to do with time.... but im no physicist.

Originally Posted by Miskingo

I believe that makes it 4d and 5d has something to do with time.... but im no physicist.
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yea most likely i just didnt want to say 4d cuz ppl would comfuse it but your most likely right

Width, Height and Dept are the 3 dimensions (3d). Time is the fourth.

Watching TV is watching a 2 dimensional image in a 3d environment.

Originally Posted by dropout14

yea most likely i just didnt want to say 4d cuz ppl would comfuse it but your most likely right
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imageimoffree.png Check that out Its 0 Demension - 4 demension. That might be better for visual people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract Thats the fourth demension

yea but its more than just depth...theres more going on than we think

Originally Posted by dropout14

yea but its more than just depth...theres more going on than we think
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"Usually, the fourth dimension is identified with time. In this case, the concept of an additional spatial dimension would be referred to as the fifth dimension." Exactly... Now I can't see how time is involved there.

Originally Posted by Miskingo

"Usually, the fourth dimension is identified with time. In this case, the concept of an additional spatial dimension would be referred to as the fifth dimension." Exactly... Now I can't see how time is involved there.
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im not talking about time at all......

Originally Posted by dropout14

im not talking about time at all......
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Depth makes it 3D or a Space. I did learn some of this. Point = Od Line = 1d (Length or Width)
Plane = 2d (Length and Width) Space = 3d (Length Width and DEPTH)

look at the pictures you put up, what i guess i should of said is i noticed how stuff curves, idk i was in a wierd state of mind when i realized this, its hard to explain

My ideas about dimension

1. Existance
2. Hight
3. Width
4. Depth
5. Time
6. Thought

I believe we live in a 6 demensional world.

As Hight Width and Depth are perceivable to humans, so are Existance Time and Thought. However, Time and Thought could be a co-existing dimension because time is an illusion created by the mind for reference. Time being no more than to points on a plane of experiance.

Originally Posted by dropout14

So i was thinking about it and i realized another dimension

So there is 3d and we all know what that is but i was thinking, when we watch tv we see in 3d right? But whats the difference in watching tv and real life?

Depth perseption. I believe that depth perception is a another dimension

Any thoughts?
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Congratulations, you've discovered the Z coordinate.

Originally Posted by dropout14

My ideas about dimension

1. Existance
2. Hight
3. Width
4. Depth
5. Time
6. Thought

I believe we live in a 6 demensional world.

As Hight Width and Depth are perceivable to humans, so are Existance Time and Thought. However, Time and Thought could be a co-existing dimension because time is an illusion created by the mind for reference. Time being no more than to points on a plane of experiance.
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Except that existence, time and thought don't measure a direction of space.

"Except that existence, time and thought don't measure a direction of space."


My thoughts:

1. Existence is a measure of space: Existence is a state of being from one point --- through infinity.
Something that exists, can never not exist. If space is existing, it will continue. If something continues, it has direction in a positive way.


2. Time and Thought measure a direction because : Thought is a progression of beginings, ends, desires, goals ect. Because it is a progression, it has direction (Possitive). Time is related to thought.




I dont know if that makes sence, im having trouble explaining it.

explain more about the z coordinate please

I didn't start learning about the Z coordinate until I started working with 3D art. It's amazing, actually. You learn so much about how the universe is modeled by actually working in 3D. Blows my mind.

Anyway, ok. Think about it like this. Ever have an Etch-a-Sketch as a kid? The thing with the little knobs that you turn to draw up and down or left and right, and make pictures out of?

Ok, well, left and right would be the X axis. Up and down is the Y axis. Now imagine the addition of another range of motion, it is one that actually A) comes out of the screen of the Etch-a-Sketch, toward your face, and B) goes down through the back of the screen, and through the table that the Etch-A-Sketch is sitting on, and continues down to, and through, the floor.

That is the Z axis. A.k.a. Depth.

Sweetshoes:

I think existence could be interpreted by Dimension 0. It is a point. Whether that point is consciousness in its most supressed state, or an inanimate object with no mass. (An electron or any other subatomic particle, for instance) That would be a representation of 0 Dimensions. Stretching that particle left and right would be the X axis. 1 Dimension. Stretching it along the Y axis would add another dimension. The Z axis would make 3. It is Depth.
As far as all units of measurement that we are familiar with, those are most fundamental 3. Together they make up length, width and height, and they are all interchangeable, depending on your point of reference.
Everything after that is up for speculation, at this point.

The thing I find curious about time, is that if it is a dimension, we are fixed in speed of movement along said dimension. In the 3 spatial dimensions, we can move freely along them either way (jumping up and down means going both directions in the Y axis). If time is similar to the spatial dimensions, then that means that there must be a way to move along the timeline at different speeds (including backwards). The key thing is how similar the spatial and temporal dimensions are, and whether we'd ever discover the technology to move along said timeline.

About the Z-Axis. The thing that some people find difficult about the Z-Axis is that we only really see in 2D, but having 2 eyes gives us very limited 3D perception in the Z-Axis. If you close one eye, you have only 2D vision, but things don't look like they've lost a whole dimension, right? 3D on television screens are only illusions of 3D, just like 3D glasses give the impression of 3D. The human brain has learnt to work out how far away things are by their size. Maybe you've seen an advert where there's a car far away in the background, and a man in the foreground, much bigger then the car. Then the man picks up the car, and you realise that they were at the same depth all along, but the car was smaller than you expected, just a toy car.

we havent got any 3d vision we only got two 2d vision that form to make the illusion of so of 3d only animal that use sonar and have the abillity of thinking i.e. dolphin and whale truly see the world in 3d. from working with mathematical physic of higher dimension all dimension are is freedom of movement and so thought is not 5d all thought is are chemical and brainwaves in neural pathways. also time is like all the other dimension in this universe the only way it seem to move forward was covered by the smartest person who ever lived william sidis in the animate and inanimate where we cant cope with anything more then 3d so the other appear broken which is a illusion i.e. this text is already written in the future but my mind cant cope with this fact so instead their the illusion of going foward instead of simultaneously.
well saying that dream are 3d created by your brain theortically not that silly but this fact still does it make true that we think in 5d because 1. thought is not infinte we die unless your dump and think you have a afterlife 2. all dimension is freedom of movement and thinking is not movement 3. if we think in 5d then we would be able to cope with time i.e. you can look at something that is 2d and 1d. face it we are 3d at best i.e. dreaming or image streaming
p.s. should this be in beyound dreaming where you got other people who believe in ghost, god or telekinesis which are wet dreams at best

http://www.tenthdimension.com/flash2.php

Heres a little something I found last night, it may interest you. Start by clicking "Imagining the tenth dimension"

yeah, I've seen that tenth dimension thing too. the fourth dimension is duration (or time), and adding a dimension to that gives you two directions in time, or a "branch" or alternate timeline. Dimensions aren't just irrelevant to each other, how could thought be the logical next step from time? The sixth dimension could be imagined as the 3 dimensional version of the 5th dimension, so the 5th dimension is to the 4th dimension is as length is to width, and the 6th dimension is to the 5th dimension and 4th as depth is to width and length.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

I didn't start learning about the Z coordinate until I started working with 3D art. It's amazing, actually. You learn so much about how the universe is modeled by actually working in 3D. Blows my mind.

Anyway, ok. Think about it like this. Ever have an Etch-a-Sketch as a kid? The thing with the little knobs that you turn to draw up and down or left and right, and make pictures out of?

Ok, well, left and right would be the X axis. Up and down is the Y axis. Now imagine the addition of another range of motion, it is one that actually A) comes out of the screen of the Etch-a-Sketch, toward your face, and B) goes down through the back of the screen, and through the table that the Etch-A-Sketch is sitting on, and continues down to, and through, the floor.

That is the Z axis. A.k.a. Depth.

Sweetshoes:

I think existence could be interpreted by Dimension 0. It is a point. Whether that point is consciousness in its most supressed state, or an inanimate object with no mass. (An electron or any other subatomic particle, for instance) That would be a representation of 0 Dimensions. Stretching that particle left and right would be the X axis. 1 Dimension. Stretching it along the Y axis would add another dimension. The Z axis would make 3. It is Depth.
As far as all units of measurement that we are familiar with, those are most fundamental 3. Together they make up length, width and height, and they are all interchangeable, depending on your point of reference.
Everything after that is up for speculation, at this point.
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Excellent. This was a great way to put this down and be able to understand it. Thanks.
Understanding this, yet describing it to others was always an issue for me.

To go far beyond this, how has this string theory all of a sudden come up with twelve dimensions? Or is it eleven. Either way it is a far cry from the eluding add on of the fourth dimension that is a mystery.

Perhaps from a Math / visual point of view, you could say that dimensions follow an 'axis' that is perpendicular to the others. You can picture it easily enough for 3d (x,y,z axis), but adding another spacial dimensions means adding another axis which must always be at 90 degrees to all the others. Much harder to (if not impossible to visualize). There's a classic book called "Flatland" by Edwin A Abbott which goes into explaining dimensions very well.

Some string theorists believe we are living on a 4d plane inside a higher dimensional univerce.

well saying that dream are 3d created by your brain theortically not that silly but this fact still does it make true that we think in 5d because 1. thought is not infinte we die unless your dump and think you have a afterlife 2. all dimension is freedom of movement and thinking is not movement 3. if we think in 5d then we would be able to cope with time i.e. you can look at something that is 2d and 1d. face it we are 3d at best i.e. dreaming or image streaming
p.s. should this be in beyound dreaming where you got other people who believe in ghost, god or telekinesis which are wet dreams at best[/b]

I beleve in God and an afterlife and I'm not dump. Or did you mean 'dumb'?

More dimensions give strings more freedom of vibrations, so the physicist has more versatility in trying to get out of it the physical quantities he/she wants.

You can call anything a dimension, but if it had any relation to the usual three spatial dimensions, you'd see fundamental things like the inverse square law of attraction change (the string spatial dimensions are small enough not to affect these laws, conveniently).

I do not think this should be in beyond dreaming at all...this is not a paranormal thing, its life and how it works

With that out of the way i agree wiht what some on write i just cant find it that there could be hundreds of planes that we see...i.e. t plane, that could be the plane you use to see diaginally up from your eyes

Everyone bow down before me...

haha im sorry i saw that and had to say it

Originally Posted by grayegg

More dimensions give strings more freedom of vibrations, so the physicist has more versatility in trying to get out of it the physical quantities he/she wants.

You can call anything a dimension, but if it had any relation to the usual three spatial dimensions, you'd see fundamental things like the inverse square law of attraction change (the string spatial dimensions are small enough not to affect these laws, conveniently).
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But I can't find any credible conversation to where they come up with that many dimensions. I am sure they just didn't pick it out of the blue.
and further more they say nothing of these dimensions.

It is like jumping from having a conscious and a subconscious to having nine or ten more and not knowing any more than we do about the first two, making it that much more liquid.