tbh, I was JUST thinking this myself not too long ago. |
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What is fire? Its different than anything on this earth. Its not a solid, not a liquid, nor a gas. Its not physical, and cant be touched or felt. It isnt energy, it gives off energy. It contains lots of it, and lots of heat. You can feel its energy, but not it in itself. So, if it is not bound by normal laws, what is it? |
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tbh, I was JUST thinking this myself not too long ago. |
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Fire is a reaction. Oxidation, to be specific. You can see fire because the breaking and reforming of bonds gives off a bunch of photons, hence why fires provide light. |
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Someone recently told me that fire was a 4th state of matter, "plasma". I guess he made it up. Dunno. |
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Fire does not respond to stimuli, does not technically reproduce and cannot be definably called an organism. |
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If you want to get technical, it can. Throw gas on the fire and you get a response. It also acts like a human, it spreads, it lingers for a bit until it uses up what sustains it, and moves on. So it may not be cellular, but it is different from anything in existance. It shows characteristics of being alive, while not technically being alive. |
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I don't think fire is anything that mystical; it's just a reaction, as Tsen said. There are plently other, more incomprehensible phenomena to discuss. |
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That's like saying ice reproduces when you put water in the freezer. |
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Not really. Ice is formed when the water freezes, but its only bound to the water. Its just simply the water going from liquid to solid. Fire is neither, and fire is not bound to one type of material. To get ice, you need a liquid. Solids may freeze, but only if they have liquid traces on them. Again, fire is neither liquid, solid, or gas. |
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Fire is light and heat resulting from a chemical reaction. Nothing more. Fire forms when fuel and sufficient heat are combined with oxygen. To get fire, you need fuel, oxygen and heat. Matter may burn, but only if heat and oxygen are added. Again, fire is energy. |
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Just like I feed the ice with water? Maybe the reverse would be a better example. What if my water kept evaporating? Does that mean that I'd need to feed it more water to keep it alive? |
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The water never dissapears, it changes to moisture in the air, and returns. It doesn need to be upkept. Fire must be upkept to keep burning. |
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And I suppose that the energy that the fire is comes from nowhere and then disappears, right? |
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No, energy can't be destroyed. But the fire ceases to exist, the fire dies. |
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Much in the same way the puddle of water ceases to exist and my water dies. |
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The water never dissapears though, it goes into the air, and is rained back down. Fire however, the energy stays, but the flame is gone permanently. That fire isnt going to come back down from the sky. |
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What you aren't acknowledging is that the fire is composed of nothing more than that energy. Objects can be destroyed, which is what you're talking about. My puddle was destroyed. It no longer exists because it has changed into something that is not definably a puddle. In the same regard, the fire no longer exists because it has changed into something which is not definably a flame. The components that formed each still exist on their own, but no longer form the whole, the "object". Ergo, the object is destroyed in both cases. If it were somehow possible to collect the exact energy that produced the flame, we could in theory "put it back together". That's about as impossible as gathering the exact molecules of water that composed my puddle, although we could theoretically do the same in the instance of the puddle. |
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Fire needs a trigger to exist however. You could collect all those things, but no, you would not be able to put it back together. It needs to be born. Just as a child needs the sperm from his/her father, fire needs something to create it. Water on the other hand, you can take those materials and compress them together and recreate the water as a whole. |
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Fire is an incandescent gas that arises from oxidation of certain materials. It isn't living although it has some of the characteristics of living things. Take this from a guy who has Pyro in his name |
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Water also needs a "trigger" to exist. It requires that two hydrogen atoms combine with one oxygen atom. And why could you not put it back together? If you reset the conditions, the fire would continue to burn. I don't know if you read that link I gave you (the second one), but it explains how a combustion reaction is self perpetuating. If all the prior conditions were recreated, the reaction and, inherently the flame, would continue. |
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