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      Part of the problem is no one can agree on anything. People can't even agree if theres really such a thing as global warming. Well yea the planet is warming but is it because of people or is it just the naturel warming and cooling cycle the earth has? Its the same thing with people who swear we have 80 years worth of easy to get oil and people who says we have 10 years before it all runs out. And you wouldn't think both could be true at the same time but both sides will give you a ton of "facts" supporting thier case.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Alric View Post
      Part of the problem is no one can agree on anything. People can't even agree if theres really such a thing as global warming. Well yea the planet is warming but is it because of people or is it just the naturel warming and cooling cycle the earth has? Its the same thing with people who swear we have 80 years worth of easy to get oil and people who says we have 10 years before it all runs out. And you wouldn't think both could be true at the same time but both sides will give you a ton of "facts" supporting thier case.
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      Bingo.

      Many of us were raised fearing the "population bomb," which should have starved us all to death twenty years ago. Then there was global cooling and ozone depletion, peak oil, and on and on.

      There is a significant body of evidence that we are right now heading into another minor ice age and will be there in ten years or less.

      There is a significant body of evidence proving that "hockey stick" that is the core of the global warming argument is hooey, and that the mathematical models can't predict anything other than that even when fed phony data that SHOULD be pointing toward stability or cooling.

      The earth is part of a complex system which we have precious little control over. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to lose sleep over producing plant food (CO2) with my activities... especially when a single volcanic eruption can and does produce more greenhouse gasses in a week or two than humans have produced since the beginning of the industrial revolution - and injects it straight up into the stratosphere to boot.

      Are things changing? Sure. Will they continue to? Guaranteed. Is MAN making it happen? We MIGHT be having the SLIGHTEST influence regarding climate, but the more I study it, the less likely it appears to be happening or even possible.

      Air quality in other areas is another story entirely - as is clean water and keeping poisons out of the ground and the food chain.

      As far as the earth being able to "support" a given population, take a flight over the central US sometime. We are nowhere near a population crisis here or anywhere else for that matter - and as people create more wealth and advance technology, our cumulative lot improves - as does our ability to address REAL crises.

      Nope... I believe the whole global warming thing is a political tool for political gain. Many are making millions off of it, curtailing human liberties and garnering power through it.

      If you really want to worry, head over to one of my favorite sites and enjoy some light reading: http://www.exitmundi.nl
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