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      The debate isn't whether it's happening or not, it's if man or nature is the source. I think man has affected it, but not on a significant level. The Earth's climate changes over time, even when humans weren't on the Earth, why should we now believe that the Earth is changing because of us? I see Al Gore's movie as more of a publicity stunt/money maker more than a source of information, Al Gore isn't an expert on the subject. The Earth is changing, but humans aren't making it change, and there's nothing we can do to stop it, we have to learn to adjust.

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      Quote Originally Posted by zxc View Post
      The debate isn't whether it's happening or not, it's if man or nature is the source. I think man has affected it, but not on a significant level. The Earth's climate changes over time, even when humans weren't on the Earth, why should we now believe that the Earth is changing because of us? I see Al Gore's movie as more of a publicity stunt/money maker more than a source of information, Al Gore isn't an expert on the subject. The Earth is changing, but humans aren't making it change, and there's nothing we can do to stop it, we have to learn to adjust.
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      We are aware of the problem. What do you suggest we do then? Let our dogs take care of it?

      I knew someone was going to say the it was some publicity stunt on Al Gore's part. I knew that while watching the movie. However, after seeing his exhaustive efforts to reference all of the research to other people - not himself! - it was easier to believe. Not too mention, Al Gore is not the cause of the climate crisis.

      zOMG it hasn't happened like it is now! It must be terrifying.

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      The sarcastic responses I hear are typically from people who will refuse to take action or even vote. Yes, enjoy the show, and make sure to do nothing in life to bring about a change for things.

      It is time to take responsibility for things in the world instead of making up excuses of why not to. Why is it that global issues are alwasy brushed off and seen as a selfish act? I have seen many scientific journals, even in my school library, publishing about climate problems which have not been seen before with such magnitude. Yet the public procrastinate and debate it. Why? Are these the same people who "will take care of their taxes tomorrow" or "take out the garbage later!' or "call my mom on Monday"??

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      Quote Originally Posted by O View Post
      We are aware of the problem. What do you suggest we do then? Let our dogs take care of it?

      Al Gore is not the cause of the climate crisis.
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      If it's the Earth's natural changes, then there is nothing we can do to stop it. And if you believe that people are causing the change, how can you say he's not the cause of the crisis? He drives, rides planes, goes on long trips to win votes, he's just as guilty as any other person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by zxc View Post
      If it's the Earth's natural changes, then there is nothing we can do to stop it. And if you believe that people are causing the change, how can you say he's not the cause of the crisis? He drives, rides planes, goes on long trips to win votes, he's just as guilty as any other person.
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      I am saying that Al Gore is not the one who is making hurricane's occur and the dramatic increase of CO2. Of course each human is equally responsible for contributing to global warming. However, keep in mind that the United States of America are the highest contributors of CO2 than any other country.

      I do not understand why people are constantly arguing against these facts. Why? That is like arguing how common AIDS is and saying, "Oh it is natural, we are all going to die somehow." Sure, we can take an apathetic approach to it and do nothing about - let them die. Or, you can get off your hands and take responsibility for something - accept that you have contributed to globabl problems. If not, you can still do something to help rather than argue against why you should not do it.

      God, it feels like arguing with a young-one about why they should help pick up garbage around the house, "Why? It's not my garbage! I don't wanna! I like it there! So what? Garbage will just come there later!" Pick it up!

      "Natural changes"? Is it really natural to have about ten-fold the amount of CO2 the planet has had in the past 650 000 years?

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      Quote Originally Posted by O View Post
      I am saying that Al Gore is not the one who is making hurricane's occur and the dramatic increase of CO2. Of course each human is equally responsible for contributing to global warming. However, keep in mind that the United States of America are the highest contributors of CO2 than any other country.

      I do not understand why people are constantly arguing against these facts. Why? That is like arguing how common AIDS is and saying, "Oh it is natural, we are all going to die somehow." Sure, we can take an apathetic approach to it and do nothing about - let them die. Or, you can get off your hands and take responsibility for something - accept that you have contributed to globabl problems. If not, you can still do something to help rather than argue against why you should not do it.

      God, it feels like arguing with a young-one about why they should help pick up garbage around the house, "Why? It's not my garbage! I don't wanna! I like it there! So what? Garbage will just come there later!" Pick it up!

      "Natural changes"? Is it really natural to have about ten-fold the amount of CO2 the planet has had in the past 650 000 years?

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      There are 2 sides to everything, people aren't the cause of every change in the world, I still don't see why you expect the earth to come to a standstill once we start producing things. There are scientists who argue that the rising temperature naturally causes the amount of CO2 to rise, not the other way around. What about the large amount of CO2 that enters the atmosphere as part of the water cycle from the sea into the air? At 6 billion pounds, humans are responsible for less than 5% of CO2 in the atmosphere, 60 billion tons circulate just because of vegetation. We're just at the peak of a change that has been going on for 25,000 years ago. 15,000 years ago the earth warmed up enough to stop the glaciers, 8,000 years ago the Bering Strait was drowned, and since the end of the ice age, the earths temperature has risen 16 degrees F, and sea levels have risen 300 feet, what caused that? Because it wasn't humans.

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