Thread: Who Should I Vote For?

TBM - I don't think you should take the current administration and nail down Republicans.

This is a good time juroara. Because you have time. Take note and watch the two parties. As 3FLryan pointed out Both parties are going to be mud slinging, as they say.
That is politics. That is why it is essential to watch how each party reacts over time. For the president is a mere figure head. It is who is in power , meaning the house and the senate that is of major importance. Who is the majority and the minority.
I feel confident as you watch the actions of both parties that you will see that Republicans have a more down to earth, conservative and steadfast approach.

Originally Posted by Howetzer

I feel confident as you watch the actions of both parties that you will see that Republicans have a more down to earth, conservative and steadfast approach.[/b]

What is that even supposed to MEAN, Howetzer? I don't want to get into a heated argument right now (mainly seeing as I'm going away for the long weekend, public holiday in my country), but what you just said sounded like the exact same sort of vaguely positive, meaningless affirmation as the same tripe spewed by politicians during campaigning. "Down to earth and steadfast"? I mean, come ON! Are you sure you don't write propaganda slogans as a nightjob, howie?

Originally Posted by The

What is that even supposed to MEAN, Howetzer? I don't want to get into a heated argument right now (mainly seeing as I'm going away for the long weekend, public holiday in my country), but what you just said sounded like the exact same sort of vaguely positive, meaningless affirmation as the same tripe spewed by politicians during campaigning. "Down to earth and steadfast"? I mean, come ON! Are you sure you don't write propaganda slogans as a nightjob, howie.[/b]

Is this statement not biased?

I like my country (for the most part), and I like the world. I don't want a warlike america fucking up the world like it has been under the current republican regime.[/b]

This is why I ad viced her to give it time. Watch, learn. Her decision is her choice.
I put my two cents in as did you. I just was not as forth coming.

Originally Posted by Howetzer

Is this statement not biased? [/b]

Oh, my beef wasn't with you being BIASED. My beef was with you making vaguely possitive comments such as that seen in the exact same sort of propaganda spiel such as that seen during election campaigns, and which really serve no pupose but to cloud judgement and disguise meaning. I mean, I'd agree with "conservative" as an informative descriptor and indication of opinion, but "steadfast" and "down to earth" don't actually give any information or opinion but just serve as vaguely positive adjectives - they're weasel-words.

But in any case, yeah, I'll shut up now.

Originally Posted by The

Oh, my beef wasn't with you being BIASED. My beef was with you making vaguely possitive comments such as that seen in the exact same sort of propaganda spiel such as that seen during election campaigns, and which really serve no pupose but to cloud judgement and disguise meaning. I mean, I'd agree with "conservative" as an informative descriptor and indication of opinion, but "steadfast" and "down to earth" don't actually give any information or opinion but just serve as vaguely positive adjectives - they're weasel-words.

But in any case, yeah, I'll shut up now.[/b]

First off I think you should give juroara a little more credit. Who is to say I am clouding her judgment? I would suspect, "Strongly urge you to vote democrat", a bit more along the line of persuasive.
And who are you to tell me what words I can use and which I can not? Conservative is OK but others our weasel words. Well personally I think weasel words are more like --

I don't vote, out of principle. I do go to the voting booth though, I just spoil the ballot paper.[/b]

Should I wait for a list for you to compile for words I can use?

All coming form someone who is not even a US citizen. Further more doesn't even try to represent anything. So you should not even have a set of words.

Enjoy the public holiday that was probably voted into act at some point.

Originally Posted by Howetzer

TBM - I don't think you should take the current administration and nail down Republicans.
I feel confident as you watch the actions of both parties that you will see that Republicans have a more down to earth, conservative and steadfast approach.
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Just to interject on this point: You might as well say, "Hey, vote Republican because they are 'good' and 'nice.' Don't vote democrat because they are 'not as good' and 'not as nice.'" Say it out loud. Sounds funny, doesn't it? Well, that's what 99.99999% percent of campaigning comes down to (on both sides of the coin), using vague affirmative statements and vague accusations that play on peoples emotions. That's why your comment sounded like propaganda.

Originally Posted by 3FLryan

Just to interject on this point: You might as well say, "Hey, vote Republican because they are 'good' and 'nice.' Don't vote democrat because they are 'not as good' and 'not as nice.'" Say it out loud. Sounds funny, doesn't it? Well, that's what 99.99999% percent of campaigning comes down to (on both sides of the coin), using vague affirmative statements and vague accusations that play on peoples emotions. That's why your comment sounded like propaganda.
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However, if you do vote, my suggestion: From what I understand, the American "democratic" system is structured so that, in practice, there are only two parties that have, and are ever likely to have, any significant representation. So, speaking as a non-american, I strongly urge you, IF you vote, to vote democrat. Why?

I like my country (for the most part), and I like the world. I don't want a warlike america fucking up the world like it has been under the current republican regime.[/b]

How then is the above staement to be received?

I was confident enough to state that if she did her part, that she would conclude that the words I used were a fundamental base for conservatives. But I guess to hell with using tact.

There is a lot of political jargon that voters have to sift through to make a well rounded decision. But because you have likely heard president Bush use steadfast, it is a propagandist statement?