Illuminati

[becomingagodo]

Does anybody believe they exsists. Also what is their purpose? P.S. I dont actually think they exsist.

[wasup]

Nice signature.

[Identity X]

Off topic: Bloody hell mate change your signature.

[TweaK]

I have mixed feelings about the Illuminati, but I definitely know for sure you should remove that huge image. :/

[MSG]

It's people like you who drove me to disable viewing signatures long ago. Perhaps that could be a good donation point, the more you donate, the more characters you can have in your signature!

[xcrissxcrossx]

i love your sig

[hellopotato]

no. they don't exist....

[Ne-yo]

It's people like you who drove me to disable viewing signatures long ago.[/b] Re-enable it for a seocnd and check out my Signature it Rocks! To the topic: They do not exist under that name anymore. The name has changed to the J.A.S.O.N. Society.

[3FLryan]

I don't know whether they exist or not, but it does seem likely that unbelievably rich and powerful people would seek each other out in order to further their own interests in some sort of capacity. Not tooo far fetched if you ask me.

[Neruo]

Something like it might exist. Skull and bones anyone?

[becomingagodo]

The only evidence i can see is the dollar bill. The eye on it is the sign of the old illuminati also on the bill it says new world order. I think i have found my new sig.

[Ne-yo]

The only evidence i can see is the dollar bill. The eye on it is the sign of the old illuminati also on the bill it says new world order.[/b] No Novus Ordo Seclorum doesn't mean New World Order in Latin. That means "New Order of the Ages" Novus Ordo Mundi means "New World Order"

[becomingagodo]

No Novus Ordo Seclorum doesn't mean New World Order in Latin. That means "New Order of the Ages" Novus Ordo Mundi means "New World Order"[/b] This make everything more confusing. New order of the ages to me doesnt make any sense. I can understand New world order as it about world domination i think. Thanks ne-yo, however you made everything more confusing. Can you explain what New order of the ages means as you seem to know alot, well you know they changed their name.

[Universal Mind]

Have any of you ever read Robert Anton Wilson's book Cosmic Trigger Vol. 1: Final Secret of the Illuminati? It is the coolest book I have ever read. It doesn't try to push any beliefs except that everything must be questioned. It is passed off as nonfiction, but I look at it as the greatest science fiction novel of all time. It is so unbelievably trippy. http://www.amazon.com/Cosmic-Trigger-Final...TF8&s=books It gets into stuff about how, possibly, the Illuminati is in connection with our alien creators from the Sirius star system and how the fabric of reality is a network of coincidences that involves the JFK assassination and how common psychedelic hallucinations in all cultures are real aliens who have presented themselves in this world as cartoons and T.V. characters and are connected to the Illuminati. I love it!

[The Blue Meanie]

The Illuminati (Or Illuminatus) definitely DID exist - they were involved in a number of revolutionary movements throughout europe in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. If memory serves though, they were never as well organised a movement as the Freemasons, and it is uncertain whether or not they still exist. I believe they do, in the same way that the Masons still exist, and other semi-secret societies do. What influence, role, or geographic location they have, I am not sure. I personally believe the illuminati were always, and still are, too fragmented and disorganised a group to have any significant influence as a cohesive organisation - of course, that does not mean that illuminati chapters or sects or whatever, CONTAIN individually powerful or influential figures.

[Ne-yo]

This make everything more confusing. New order of the ages to me doesnt make any sense. I can understand New world order as it about world domination i think. Thanks ne-yo, however you made everything more confusing. Can you explain what New order of the ages means as you seem to know alot, well you know they changed their name. [/b] Sure. This phrase suggests that our new formed government was seen as only the beginning of a new period of enlightenment. The eye itself is enveloped in radiating light, breaking up the dark clouds of the "old order." See Masonic Symbolism is the building blocks of our U.S. currency. The obscure ancient symbolism it contains has been misunderstood for decades with it’s Masonic flavor. The fact of the matter is, is that Masonry and its ideals played a part in the founding of this country. The enlightenment philosophy embraced by Jefferson, Madison, Franklin, and other engineers of American Democracy evolved from the same Rosicrucian roots that Freemasonry did.

[3FLryan]

I heard that the only president in our history that wasn't a freemason was JFK. Interesting, if true. Then again, I guess all presidents in our history have been white males.

[O'nus]

They existed.. or exit.. But I think Dan Brown is really exaggerating their reputation.. you just read "Angels and Demons" didn't you..? As an Illumnati fan - the book kind of pissed me off... but I'll hold on the long, long rant.. lol. Anyone else..? ~

[Indecent Exposure]

On the topic of Dan Brown I strongly advice anyone against believing anything he writes I also strong advice you not to be expecting a good read, lol, the characters are soo poorly developed and yes the illuminati did exist, athough it seems just lyk there predecessors, the Kinghts Templar, they have become shroudd in conspitacy and its ahrd to sift the truth from the bull, but they defintely existed, as far as all he conspiracies and the NWO go, well thats a different matter. Some of it, you ahve to take with a pinch of salt Imran

[Oneironaut Zero]

Yeah. I believe they existed and, possibly, still do. I'm not sold on all of the theories surrounding them but I enjoy reading about them and the freemasons. There is a lot of (alleged) information on them at www.freepressinternational.com

[O'nus]

The Illumnati and the Freemasons are pretty much fraternal twins. Not too mention their interdependance through their flourishment was tremendous. ~

[Universal Mind]

Wilson suggests that the Illuminati might be a secret organization within the Free Masons. I read either from him or somebody else that U.S. presidents have not only been Free Masons, but but high ranking Free Masons. Supposedly Neil Armstrong and other important figures have been high ranking Masons too. Something that spooks me out a little bit is that just the other day, I was looking up names from my past to see who from way back might have gotten some level of fame or other recognition, and I looked up the name of the guy who ran my kindergarten. He was this militaristic acting ex-Navy guy, and all of the kids were very afraid of pissing him off. I found a web site a few days ago with an article he had written about the Free Masons. At the bottom of the page, there was a picture of him in a Free Mason hat, and it said that he is a 32nd degree Mason. That sounds way up there. Does anybody know what it means?

[The Blue Meanie]

The Masons and the Illuminati being "twins" or directly related to one another - I'm not sure. The Masons are much more deist in bent than the Illuminati, are much more fraternal, and act sort of as a semi-secret roatry club, whereas the Illuminati are much more elitist. I believe, anyway.

[taltho]

I don't like that eye! -------------------------------- The illumined-ones I believe still exist they use a much higher technology than we do.

[3FLryan]

Wilson suggests that the Illuminati might be a secret organization within the Free Masons. I read either from him or somebody else that U.S. presidents have not only been Free Masons, but but high ranking Free Masons. Supposedly Neil Armstrong and other important figures have been high ranking Masons too. Something that spooks me out a little bit is that just the other day, I was looking up names from my past to see who from way back might have gotten some level of fame or other recognition, and I looked up the name of the guy who ran my kindergarten. He was this militaristic acting ex-Navy guy, and all of the kids were very afraid of pissing him off. I found a web site a few days ago with an article he had written about the Free Masons. At the bottom of the page, there was a picture of him in a Free Mason hat, and it said that he is a 32nd degree Mason. That sounds way up there. Does anybody know what it means? [/b] This is just off the top of my head, so I might be wrong, but I've researched the freemasons a lot before, so I know a bit about them, but 32nd degree is the absolute highest you can go. Like, top dawg, nothing is higher. Weird as shit man, if your kindergarten teacher was one. And yes, as I said before, I think JFK was the only non-freemason president. I don't like that eye! -------------------------------- The illumined-ones I believe still exist they use a much higher technology than we do. [/b] Word. Same.