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      Quote Originally Posted by 13redfan View Post
      Exactly what does being black have to do with it?
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      Last time I checked, it were mostly the poor and black people that had aids but were getting little to no help. I am sure there are a few poor white people with AIDS, but by far not as much as black people.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Neruo View Post
      Last time I checked, it were mostly the poor and black people that had aids but were getting little to no help. I am sure there are a few poor white people with AIDS, but by far not as much as black people.
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      Being white doesn't eliminate you from AIDS, poverty and poor education, much the same way that being black doesn't invite those things upon you either. Yes, majority of people living in suffering in Africa are black, simply because the majority of people there are black. It's a bit like saying all criminals are black in Africa, and yes I'm sure there are a few white ones too. It's not like that.

      Anyway that's not the point of the Argument. AIDS, as well as cancer, isn't only present in Africa. It's everywhere. Have you been tested? Do you know your status?

      In any case, being in Africa doesn't mean you are condemned to poverty, AIDS, poor education and suppression. Living in countries with hopeless leaders surrounded by stupid people does. I'm not going to go into depth about my situation, because there are people worse off than me, but I wasn't born without the frustrations and setbacks of many other africans (ok, I wasn't born with AIDS plus for me) and yet I managed to claw my way out of the cesspool. I live in Africa, I know what the people are like in my country and in many others, and I have no sympathy for the mindset. AIDS is doing Africa a favour. So is cancer.
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      This is a stereotypical image of poor people in africa.

      I rest my case.
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      I don't believe it, or, I should say, I just can't bring myself to, as nice as it would be.

      If this is a good enough cure, for cancer, HIV, whatever the hell you like, i.e. it's good enough to work, then it shouldn't - and won't - take long for a non-corrupt, smart and most importantly vocal group of people to start shouting it from the rooftops. I daresay an example would be this forum.

      And it doesn't take long for the public to believe something (unfortunately) and once they do some company out of the hundreds in the job is going to realize that, hey, this current business model is becoming a house of cards and instead of selling the shitty drugs like we do now, better start selling this cure! And, of course, once that happens, it's a knock on effect. Other companies aren't going to be able to hold out long, and, well, if they do, that one particular company is going to get fat, fast and they don't want that so they'll get in on the market. Money will do the talking.

      I doubt there's an iron grip international cartel on drugs. Hospital bills shouldered by a socialist government itself (e.g. the NHS in Britain) because of cancer/HIV can cost an absolute shitload - they'd LOVE to have falling cancer rates in their country and have just about everyone wanting to come work in their country. It could only possible cost less. I doubt every single government in the world is corrupt and influenced by pharmaceutical companies: some government would sell this drug if it works.

      Yet if the government does help the pharmaceutical companies keep it under wraps, and all the pharmaceutical companies have that much control over your government, frankly, you're implying that they basically run your country. The same people who make Viagra. That or your government is entirely corrupt on every level. Probably not.

      Hey. If they won't sell the drugs, why don't you set up your own company to manufacture them yourself? Sure it's going to be quite the heck of an initial investment, but sounds like the researchers are happy to help. And you'd be making up on those profits hecka fast.

      Maybe these are crap examples, but it's clear that some powerful party somewhere has to have a motivation and want to sell these drugs. So why hasn't it happened yet? Why haven't they done it yet? Big Brother is upon us? Yeah, right. If this is true, the cat's already out of the bag and if the public really do have any power something will change.

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      As Kaniaz said, funding and evil pharmacists have nothing to really do with it. Honestly, if a rich man exists with cancer (and uhm, there are), then I'm sure that person would donate incredible amounts of money to the cause. This type of thing could easily get infinite funding from rich people with cancer, as well as media coverage by those same people. I don't understand how you could think the lack of pharmaceutical investments and lack of media coverage could effect this like you said. Also, why WOULDN'T the media report this? Other than it may not be true, they could still say it might be true and I'm sure they would find a way to report it. They don't benefit from not saying it (unless you are suggesting the pharmaceutical companies are paying off all of the major newspapers), and in fact they benefit much more from reporting such a huge story.

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