Quote Originally Posted by Universal View Post
I've saved a lot of people in my life, some with my bare hands and some with my words. Also, my tax dollars have saved A LOT of people. [/b]
Do you really believe that all those bombs your tax money payed for even in the Long run saves people? (even when taken the standard of life out of the debate, btw people in japan still get little Hiroshima-babies.)

Anyhow, I guess that the average tax payer in America perhaps saved 1 or 2 people with it's money. Not like (relatively) America gives that much money to dieing people.

But more importantly, refraining from saving somebody is not the same as choosing for him to die. The dilemma this thread is about concerns whether you would flat out make a conscious decision for ten people to die in order to save yourself. Like, if somebody holds up an uzi with you on one side of the room and ten people on the other side and says, "I kill either you or them. You make the decision." Saying, "I choose them," is not the same as not sending help to another country. I believe in helping other countries any way, even to the point of being called all kinds of names for it.
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Isn't it a conscious decision Not to care, Not to do anything? I think solskye is right about that: both ways it is selfishness. Also, do you really think America is fighting For the people or just Against some archetype of Dictator-ship. If America really cared about random people, they would have saved Africa from it's dictators and wars. Only none of them had as much history with America as Saddam (on the field of violating human rights, Saddam by far wasn't the only bad kid in class).

I am serious about this, America isn't fighting For people, it is all just an almost symbolic fight against suppression. They reflect their own lust for freedom on other countries. I highly doubt many americans Really are about afghans and about Iraqis.

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Also, it is in human nature to make Some sort of sacrifice for 'the pack' or social group one is in. However thanks to society people don't help other people, people help (sacrifice something, if not everything) for ideas. Christianity and Islam are ideas that caused a lot of death and war, because people put 'the group', the Idea, above them self. Like TBM said.