Thread: A question about polar ice caps

Originally Posted by skysaw

You seem sure that changing it is impossible and that adapting to it is possible. Considering what's at stake, don't you think it might be worthwhile to consider that the opposite may in fact be true? Especially since most scientists seem to think this is the case?

Ive heard that most qualified scientists think it is inevitable. Unfortunately, they have no plan of action, and therefore their opinions are considered worthless.

People LOVE drama. Nothing is more dramatic than the end of the world. Any person who can come up with the most destructive prediction of our actions, and can back it up with a theory (bogus or not) will get on the news. Just look what happened with Al Gore. Qualified geologists have said Al Gore's findings are from loose studies and 100 year old data.

Does anybody trust the temperature findings from 1906? How can you find an accurate mean-temprature for earth with data from that time period?

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

Qualified geologists have said Al Gore's findings are from loose studies and 100 year old data.

Source please?

Perhaps you heard the data begins at 100 years ago? The mean global temperature is a matter of meteorological record beginning around 1880, when people thought to start recording these things. Earlier temperatures are calculated based on geology, but there's no point in even going that route after 1880, so what exactly woud they have been talking about?

For the record, here are the mean global temperatures from 1880 to 2005: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempera...ord_since_1880

I cant trust that data. A lot of those records are before globalization. Are you saying that they have completely accurate readings, within 1.8 C, from every corner of the globe? If not, the average temp could easily be skewed.

Has anybody questioned wether our sun is just getting hotter?

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

I cant trust that data. A lot of those records are before globalization. Are you saying that they have completely accurate readings, within 1.8 C, from every corner of the globe? If not, the average temp could easily be skewed.

Has anybody questioned wether our sun is just getting hotter?

Older instuments can be pretty acurate. There are also other ways to find the temperture from over 100 years ago. The info is accurate. Global warming is definately real.

Real? Yes. Imminate destruction of the planet and the complete anhiliation of all carbon based life forms caused by my Chevy Tahoe? Probably not.

The simple fact that the earth was once covered by lava and then by ice is proof enough to me that our climate shifts. It also proves to me that there isnt a damn thing we can do about it.......except misplace blame on the Republicans.

If it werent for global warming, we would still be in the ice age. Think about that.

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

The simple fact that the earth was once covered by lava and then by ice is proof enough to me that our climate shifts. It also proves to me that there isnt a damn thing we can do about it...

Wah! It's too *hard!* I can't make a difference! Better to give up without a fight I suppose. I mean since you've proven it and all.

.....except misplace blame on the Republicans.

Newsflash: PLANET EARTH IS NON-PARTISAN! Any dangers we face we face together, regardless of your affiliation. I don't single out Republicans, I single out individuals who deny global warming because the oil companies are lining their pockets. The fact that these people are usually Republicans is incidental to my concerns. The fact that you are letting the oil companies tell you what's what without questioning their motives is quite central to my concern, however.

If it werent for global warming, we would still be in the ice age. Think about that.

Yes, thank you Mr. Science, I've never even considered that. And now that we have temperatures that support life well, you want to start the "Charred Age?" What's the sense in that?

Originally Posted by skysaw

Wah! It's too *hard!* I can't make a difference! Better to give up without a fight I suppose. I mean since you've proven it and all.


Newsflash: PLANET EARTH IS NON-PARTISAN! Any dangers we face we face together, regardless of your affiliation. I don't single out Republicans, I single out individuals who deny global warming because the oil companies are lining their pockets. The fact that these people are usually Republicans is incidental to my concerns. The fact that you are letting the oil companies tell you what's what without questioning their motives is quite central to my concern, however.


Yes, thank you Mr. Science, I've never even considered that. And now that we have temperatures that support life well, you want to start the "Charred Age?" What's the sense in that?

ha! Such ANGER from those who dissagree with me. Arrrrrrgggh!!!

My question to you. How can you predict the future of earth of 120 years of data? Especially considering the 6 billion+ yearl ife span of earth.