Thread: What's the dealio with GOP candidate Ron Paul?

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

The difference is that we would overthrow the government of Iran in a matter of days. They fear that we will overthrow them. We don't fear that they will overthrow our government. They know they can't.

So basicly you think its important for the US to play the part of the bully?

Originally Posted by Alric

So basicly you think its important for the US to play the part of the bully?

Of course we appear to be bullies. We are the only country that actively pursues world affairs. Everyone else seems to just stand by, accept credit when things go well, and point fingers when things go bad.

I'm perfectly happy with having to do the dirty work. Afterall, we are the most technologically advanced country in the world. World affairs should be left up to the best.

Originally Posted by Alric

So basicly you think its important for the US to play the part of the bully?

No. We're the guy on the playground who stands up to the bullies.

No, no we are not. We are the bully, you said it yourself. Threatening people with nuclear attacks is horrible. You put it nicely when you basicly described that we do whatever we want because we don't believe anyone can actually invade us.

Originally Posted by Alric

No, no we are not. We are the bully, you said it yourself. Threatening people with nuclear attacks is horrible. You put it nicely when you basicly described that we do whatever we want because we don't believe anyone can actually invade us.

You need to read more carefully. I never said we should threaten anybody with nuclear attacks. I said we should not tell the terrorists we will NOT engage in them. I said we are not afraid Iran will invade us, not that we can do whatever we want. You're hearing things.

Iran is a bully. Somebody has to stand up to a bully. Tell me about the countries Iran has liberated and how much they give in foreign aid every year. Then I'll tell you what the government Iran has said they want to do to Israel, what terrorist groups they fund and support, and what they are doing to support Iraqi insurgents who stand against Iraqi freedom. THAT is bullying. Try to deny that. When you see that you can't, you can see why we need to stand up to them. Standing up to a bully is not bullying. It is justifiable retaliation.

My point is that we are doing the same thing, we are threatening people all the time, and here you are saying, we should drop a hint that a nuclear attack is possible. Thats not something you play word games with, and it comes across just as bad as threatening them.

Originally Posted by Alric

My point is that we are doing the same thing, we are threatening people all the time, and here you are saying, we should drop a hint that a nuclear attack is possible. Thats not something you play word games with, and it comes across just as bad as threatening them.

I am not talking about dropping a hint. I am talking about not taking away a worry. There is a difference between threating to kill somebody and just refraining from saying you won't kill him.

That works untill someone asks about it.