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      Quote Originally Posted by Alric View Post
      Thats not a fair example. Its nothing like blaming a rape victim for having to short of a skirt. Its like blaming the drunk guy that spit it someones face. Yes the other person is totally wrong and has no right to punch him in the face, but the guy was still asking for it.

      Just like how we bring a lot of our problems on ourself. Obviously anyone trying to kill people is bad and evil and they are wrong. But we can clean up our side of the problem. At the very least you can talk about the problems. Ignoring them and acting like we are perfect, hardly solves anything.
      We started out protecting democracy (which you call spitting in somebody's face), and then we had to fight terrorism while protecting and later spreading democracy. Those are not morally wrong actions. I disagree with my government on a lot of things, but this is not one of them. And Al Qaeda literally believes that our women's skirts are too short. They don't even think women should show their faces, much less their legs. That is part of why they hate us and want to kill us. Just think what effect Wild On and Girls Gone Wild have on Al Qaeda.
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      We didn't start off protecting anything. We starting off with meddling in the affairs of other countries. And obviously when you are spreading 'democracy' by force people have problems with it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Alric View Post
      We didn't start off protecting anything. We starting off with meddling in the affairs of other countries. And obviously when you are spreading 'democracy' by force people have problems with it.
      We meddled in the affairs of Israel's democracy by protecting it. The people who have a problem with the spreading of democracy are the people who don't value the freedoms of others. They don't have my sympathy.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      We meddled in the affairs of Israel's democracy by protecting it. The people who have a problem with the spreading of democracy are the people who don't value the freedoms of others. They don't have my sympathy.
      The problem is that they don't want democracy. If they had it, the first person they would elect would be some radical who would take it away from them. Then what do we do? Protect them from themselves forever?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Moonbeam View Post
      The problem is that they don't want democracy. If they had it, the first person they would elect would be some radical who would take it away from them. Then what do we do? Protect them from themselves forever?
      They vote in higher percentages than even we do, despite the death threats. The numbers of nut cases who despise democracy will start wearing thin as the country advances.
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