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      I've just been wanting to find out more about him from Japan, without people chiming in with dis-information...and misrepresentations of what's actually going on...

      When "he-who-shall-not-be-named" wouldn't stop, and I continually saw people that posted very informative links and research on him start to leave the conversation because of this individual...then...Yes...I made it personal...

      Why would someone purposefully try and make a topic die, which obviously seems like his intent?

      The topic doesn't say, "Bash Ron Paul, and lie about him..."

      If he wants to continue doing that he needs to make a topic about that...if not...I'll continue to beat him into the ground with my own research until he concedes...
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      UM, do them a favor and just talk about Ron Paul. See what happens from there.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Michael View Post
      WOOOOOOOOT 10 pages and nothing accomplished besides all of you thinking you are pwning the other!!!! YAYYYYYYYYY!@#@#(%U$

      This post was just as contributional as all the others. Admit it.
      No, you have not praised Ron Paul's 1-5% in the polls or dedicated 75 entire posts to the subject of me. So you have accomplished nowhere near as much as those who follow me around this forum like lost puppies.

      Quote Originally Posted by SolSkye View Post
      From FOX news of all places!!!

      Can you all start to hear the corporate greedy individuals grinding their teeth as they break under the public pressure, and feel themselves losing their grip over the less-fortunate peoples' lives? It's great...

      I can feel it all the way from Japan...

      FREEEEEEEEEEDOM!!!
      Yes, the other Republicans are scared shitless of Ron Paul. I already told you that.

      And stop being so tolerant.

      Quote Originally Posted by SolSkye View Post
      When "he-who-shall-not-be-named" wouldn't stop, and I continually saw people that posted very informative links and research on him start to leave the conversation because of this individual...and then...Yes...I made it personal...
      Damn, I screwed up your request for information about how Ron Paul is doing by posting the statistics of dozens of major polls that actually answer to that issue with numbers. What was I thinking? What would you like now? Do you want me to tell you that Ron Paul is in the lead and Yoda is in second place?

      Quote Originally Posted by SolSkye View Post
      If he wants to continue doing that he needs to make a topic about that...if not...I'll continue to beat him into the ground with my own research until he concedes...









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      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsGSMZxNPsM

      Theres a link to the video of the post debate chat with ron paul. They talk about it a bit at the start and end of the interview, and if you watch the bottom of the screen it displays what everyone is at in the poll. Then again at the end it shows the final result. Ron Paul winning with 34%, giuliani came in third with only 11%.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Alric View Post
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsGSMZxNPsM

      Theres a link to the video of the post debate chat with ron paul. They talk about it a bit at the start and end of the interview, and if you watch the bottom of the screen it displays what everyone is at in the poll. Then again at the end it shows the final result. Ron Paul winning with 34%, giuliani came in third with only 11%.
      Weird, it's true. The thing is that that type of poll is not scientific, so it is not representative. They teach about stuff like that in statistics classes. All of the scientific polls I posted show that he has 1-5% support. I think what probably happened is that lots of Democrats wanted to screw with Fox News and were far more determined to vote in that unscientific poll than the Guiliani and Romney supporters. They really wanted to throw Paul in the faces of the majority of the supporters of Giuliani and others. When you take away all of the confounding variables, whatever they may be, Paul is not above 5%.

      If Ron Paul gets the nomination over Giuliani, Romney, and Thompson, I will jump off a building with full belief that I can fly because I will know that I am dreaming. Paul is not going to end up with 34% while Guiliani has 11%. There is no way it is going to happen. He does not have enough support.
      You are dreaming right now.

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      The thing is most of the polls turn out like that. You can even see hannity in the interview joking about how he always wins. Now I wouldn't say he has 3 times the supporters like the poll suggest but he obviously has support.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Alric View Post
      The thing is most of the polls turn out like that. You can even see hannity in the interview joking about how he always wins. Now I wouldn't say he has 3 times the supporters like the poll suggest but he obviously has support.
      Do you think the many polls in my links are incorrect?
      You are dreaming right now.

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      Obviously most of the polls wrong because he jumps around on the extremes. For every one you post showing him below 5% I can find one showing him beating everyone else.

      I would say there is a few reasons why. He has a big base, so you will get different results depending on if you do a general poll of everyone or if you do a poll on just republicans. His supporters are really motivated so they vote in every poll they see. Which is a good sign as they are all likely to vote in the election, while a lot of other people just sit back and just dont take the time to vote. Of course its not going to be the average persons opinion if the average person is to lazy to vote in the poll while all the ron paul supporters do. Then again you don't need the majority of the people but the majority of the people actually voting.

      Now I don't know if he is going to win but I am fairly sure he is going to make it into the top three. I personally think if he gets that far, hes going to go all the way however.

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