Thread: What's the dealio with GOP candidate Ron Paul?

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Mainly, he is the only Republican candidate who can beat Hillary Clinton. That alone gets him the nomination, most likely. That is so important to Republicans that they are willing to overlook that fact that he is pro-choice and pro-gun-control. His handling of 9/11 has a lot to do with his popularity, and so does his great ability to communicate, debate, and sound strong. McCain is seen as having a lot of good qualities and an impressive resume too, but he comes across as kind of a wuss when he speaks, and that makes him look vulnerable in a debate with Hillary Clinton. He lacks conviction and energy. I think the Republicans are tired of having candidates that suck at communicating. Bob Dole was a total pansie of a public communicator, and Bush has trouble getting through sentences. Republicans want a great communicator with conviction on top of what they see as the other necessary qualities.

I could be wrong that the Repubs arent going to nominate someone with no chance of winning.

But you are using circular reasoning. How can Giuliani have a chance of beating Hillary if there is another candidate who would steal more votes from her than Giulinai would?

And you just admitted that the only things that would make him more appealing are his left-leaning stances on abortion, etc- when its obvious to everyone that Giuliani is one of the most disliked Republican figures by the left. So who is he going to appeal to? Pro-abortion people who just happen to like Neo-cons? Hmmm...I wonder...what does the average Giuliani fan look like?

Originally Posted by memeticverb

But you are using circular reasoning. How can Giuliani have a chance of beating Hillary if there is another candidate who would steal more votes from her than Giulinai would?

And who would that be?

Originally Posted by memeticverb

And you just admitted that the only things that would make him more appealing are his left-leaning stances on abortion, etc- when its obvious to everyone that Giuliani is one of the most disliked Republican figures by the left.

No, that is not what I said. Read again.

Originally Posted by Alric

He has a very large base, far larger than any of the other people running. Like memeticverb pointed out, Giuliani isn't going to get any left leaning voters to vote for him. Hes just going to polarize the election. Ron Paul on the other hand will get a lot of votes from democrates, thus stealing votes from hillary while also getting many of the third party votes and most of the republican votes.

Ron Paul has no chance of winning the Republican nomination and no chance of beating Hillary Clinton as a Republican or an Independent. It is not going to happen. He will soon lose the Republican nomination. You can book my words on that. He has no chance of even making the top three. I don't even want to say that any more. Just watch what happens. After that, he should run as an Independent if he and his supporters think he can actually get somewhere. I don't think he will, but I would like to see him try. Do you think he will?