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      Quote Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming View Post
      Is that sarcasm? The tomato is throwing me off.
      No sarcasm.
      I was just pondering over the other ideas it brought to mind.

      I wish the world was as black and white as Alric paints it. While he may be correct in the fact that what he says does go on, I am confident that
      our foreign policies, national security and international affairs are much more complicated.

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      *prepares to be hated by every female here*

      I - for one - think that a female President would be devastating for the US at the present time. Now, so I don't get reamed by the female members: I think a woman could do the job just fine. But this isn't about "doing the job". This is about how the world will view and relate to the US if a woman were to gain the title of President of the United States of America.

      Firstly, and most importantly, the countries we are at greatest odds with (you know, the ones who want us dead) are of a culture that regards woman very lowly. They don't even allow their women to show their faces. They have a social system that encourages the oppression and degradation of women. They have a view that it's OK -advisable even - to beat your wife because you don't like the way she does things. To them, women are to be completely submissive and their opinions and feels are to be ignored and considered un-important. And that's only scratching the surface of the evils of Sharia law.

      What we need now is some one who they will at least take seriously enough to give us a chance. Sure, a woman would be a big slap in their face but, that's not the way to go about it: not right here - not right now.

      So, how can we ever hope to be taken seriously at all by our enemies when we are headed by some one they have so little respect for? We'd be the laughing stock of the world, and that's not something we need to be encouraging any more these days.

      No offense intended to women but, I am seriously against a woman becoming US president for the first time in these days and times. And I damn sure don't want that cowardly, liberal Hillary Clinton. She's got the spine of a jellyfish and the resolve of France. She's bent on giving up and throwing in the towel. She believes that we can appease our enemies that want us dead by "leaving them alone". Sorry, Hilliary, we weren't "bothering them" when they started all this sh!t in the first place. So what makes you think that showing passive weakness is going to change that?

      Nope, not good at all.

      EDIT: Top ten reasons why sharia is bad for all societies
      Last edited by Oneironaught; 08-12-2007 at 05:26 AM.

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      What happens if she becomes president?

      Hillary Clinton is a Democrat and a politically correct fool. As a part of their political platform, they will avoid doing anything that offends anybody, except rich white people. This inhibits their ability to make tough decisions for fear of loosing support.

      In my opinion, Hillary, or any other woman, won't be elected next. Americans just aren't ready.
      Last edited by Half/Dreaming; 08-12-2007 at 05:42 AM.
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      I am from the Netherlands and I would love a female president for the USA, at least if she also has good qualities like honesty, being sincere, strong but open for dialogue and some wisdome to. Its the qualities that makes a good leader.

      I dont think that a woman president would harm the Usa in relation to countries that are Islamic. If president bush would be a pink midget i would feel just the same about him! You judge someone on his/her actions and policy not if she is male or female. I think even Islamic countries would look more at the policy the Usa stands for then if the president would be a male or female. Does not India has a female president and that isnt a problem for islamic countries in the region as far as I know.
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      Well they were female prime-ministers in countries with a large Muslim population, ( Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Turkey, Indonesia, Israel ) and as far as I know they didn't have so much problems with the Muslims, and they were not figure-heads, but actual leaders.

      So I think Muslim countries will not take a female US president very differently then they take a male one.
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      I think the American people will vote for anyone at this junkier in time. Even a pink midget LucidApple.

      Quote Originally Posted by LucidApple
      If she also has good qualities like honesty, being sincere, strong but open for dialogue and some wisdome to. Its the qualities that makes a good leader

      I am afraid this is not how are system works over here.
      It certainly sounds good though.

      I tend to agree with Onierenaught.
      The countries that do have residing woman are not changing the face of the world so Islam extremist do not care so much. I also believe they are ,for the most part figure heads. I may be wrong.

      The females perspective is just pouring in.
      Last edited by Howie; 08-12-2007 at 03:27 PM. Reason: " --- "

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      Quote Originally Posted by LucidApple View Post
      ...at least if she also has good qualities like honesty, being sincere, strong but open for dialogue and some wisdome to. Its the qualities that makes a good leader.
      I have news for you, Hillary possesses none of those qualities.

      You judge someone on his/her actions and policy not if she is male or female.
      Yes, I judge people on their actions and perhaps you do too. But we aren't talking about what makes sense to you and me.

      I think even Islamic countries would look more at the policy the Usa stands for then if the president would be a male or female.
      \Right, in the land of bubble gum and cotton candy. But have you noticed that - in the real world - the Islamic countries want to kill us because of what we stand for. What we stand for is everything they despise: Freedom. Don't fool yourself into thinking you can tame a wild beast with good intentions; it doesn't work that way.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaught View Post
      the Islamic countries want to kill us because of what we stand for.
      Way to completely over generalize. Pakistan wants to kill you for what you stand for? There was me thinking the government was working cloesly with yours to weed out terrorists. When was the last time Indonesia said they wanted to kill you. Yes some Muslims are fanatical, but your just over generalizing comeptlely.
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      Quote Originally Posted by imran_p View Post
      Way to completely over generalize. Pakistan wants to kill you for what you stand for? There was me thinking the government was working cloesly with yours to weed out terrorists. When was the last time Indonesia said they wanted to kill you. Yes some Muslims are fanatical, but your just over generalizing comeptlely.
      While he may be over generalizing, you know his point.
      This is why it is so hard to discuss anything, all the formalities. Yes, many times it is pertinent to the discussion. Maybe you feel it is in this one.
      Generally speaking ● Countries empowered byMuslim Islamic religions do not stand for what they call the West and it's ways.


      How will this effect the presidency of the United states?


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