"Taser this: F*** BUSH" - I love it

[wer]

This really brought a smile on my face when I heard it on the news. Not the fact that it was on the news... that pissed me off. I do love how this guy practiced his freedom of speech in such a slap-in-the-face way. Why the fuck was this on the national news?!?!? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AnzvFBqp_4 "He used the 'F' word" - Hahaha, what the fucks wrong with the US?

[Universal Mind]

Wow, what an intellectual giant. That's what I call thinking outside of the box. He said, "ffff....," uh, I better not say it. My mommy said that's what bad kids say. I am really impressed with the great heights of analytical superbrilliance the Bush and America hating weenies are reaching these days. Their arguments get more and more logical and eloquent by the day.

[Michael]

I voted, I dont care. I honestly don't at all. As long as it isn't against the college rules to use profanity... then there is nothing wrong with this. He is just trying to piss people off and it doesn't work on me.

[Absolute]

I feel that we are living in more of an adolescent world, day by day.

[wasup]

Can he do it? Yes... of course. Was it "effective?" No, not really. I think writing a logical, not-so-emotionally-charged article would have been much more. And even emotions can be logical. But saying 'FUCK BUSH TASER THIS' is simplifying the entire situation. They are acting like it was entirely a freedom of speech issue, when in the other thread we talked about other reasons behind it as well. And what the hell does this have to do with BUSH, for chrissakes?

[Alric]

I don't care, he can say whatever he wants. Besides, thats hardly the worse thing you can hear anymore.

[Original Poster]

He wrote it in his college editorial? Oh Noes! Stephen Colbert once roughly said, "This generation acts against the establishment not by acting, but by blogging." He also said this in the same topic: "How are you supposed to protest against the misuse of authority when an authority figure is telling you not to?"

[Universal Mind]

And what the hell does this have to do with BUSH, for chrissakes? Yeah, really. I didn't even think about that. I was too focussed on my mental image of a junior high moron showing his teacher a hole in his jeans so he can get in trouble. Apparently somebody needs to tell that editor that Bush did not taser the Florida student.

[Mystic7]

Excellent article.

[ClouD]

I feel that we are living in more of an adolescent world, day by day. adolescence, and maturity, are deemed by those claiming authority, and egoists.

[Replicon]

I agree with the "Why the fuck is this news?!?!?" camp. While I think it was pretty bad journalism, from a professional standpoint, I also think if it made national news, then it served its purpose.

[memeticverb]

I agree with the "Why the fuck is this news?!?!?" camp. While I think it was pretty bad journalism, from a professional standpoint, I also think if it made national news, then it served its purpose. It was not supposed to be journalism. It was an editorial where free speech and free opinion reign. And that was the entire point. Bush-totalitarian-tasering-policies cant stop them from publishing a statement denouncing Bush with the most "profane" word we have in America. Free speech wins, and gets national coverage to boot. A success on all counts.

[Universal Mind]

It was not supposed to be journalism. It was an editorial where free speech and free opinion reign. And that was the entire point. Bush-totalitarian-tasering-policies cant stop them from publishing a statement denouncing Bush with the most "profane" word we have in America. Free speech wins, and gets national coverage to boot. A success on all counts. The tasering was not a Bush policy. It was a low wage campus cop policy, if it was even a policy. Bush also does not have a policy against cussing in campus newspapers. Bush does not give a flying FUCK if the word FUCK is printed in some FUCKing campus newspaper. And saying, "Fuck," is not some big victory for free speech. If it is... FUCK What do I win? This is such an elementary school issue.

[Mystic7]

It's a victory and an intelligent move for publicity. That's why it was so threatening. It did something other than worship government. It's realizing that bush sucks. It's making a statement with an attitude of freedom and making it known that opinions exist. And mostly outside what they want them to think. You have to love it. UM said the word fuck also. However he's not as skilled at using it for something constructive. He's not going to get any publicity from it or serve any useful purpose. The idea of connecting bush to tasering is that Police = system of authority. Bush= system if authority working with police. Bush= president. Now it may begin to click why tasering would become an issue against freedom of speech. Unless you refuse to see anything.

[pj]

Try to show a little respect for those of us accessing this forum from work, schools... or our living rooms. Say what you will in the thread, but please show a TINY bit of discretion in the thread titles. Thank you.

[Mystic7]

I don't think the title of the thread is not respectful. I find it highly supportive of my freedom.

[pj]

I don't think the title of the thread is not respectful. I find it highly supportive of my freedom. Your "freedom" does not extend to private property - which this is. Go stand on your street corner and exercise your freedom of speech. You might also try READING what you are responding to. You totally missed the reason I edited this thread title. It didn't have a thing to do with the title being disrespectful - it has to do with showing some respect for those of us who may not be entirely comfortable having those words emblazoned across our screens. It's called Common Courtesy.

[Universal Mind]

I don't think the title of the thread is not respectful. I find it highly supportive of my freedom. Mystic the Australian, I'm glad to see you standing up for your right to say "fuck" in a country on the other side of the world.

[Mystic7]

PJ what you said is not making sense. The concept of private property is not a valid or compatible excuse to censor anyones thoughts. I know you censored the swear word. But you didn't stop there. You complained about disrespect present when it wasn't. Thoughts are not private property. They are not public property. They are just thoughts that can't be blocked. And Common Courtesy involves something you have when you respect peoples right to say things and express without you complaining that people are victimized. Block the swear word if you want that is not the problem. My point is that you think someone has done something damaging when they haven't. And you ordered them to be respectful when they never expressed any disrespect. You go further to excuse away anyone else's behavior stating that it is only the title of the thread that matters. If your worried about seeing the word fuck on the computer screen. Maybe your discernment is slightly damaged in itself as there is far worse things than bad language being used in a positive way. *the poll indicates that it's supportive of free speech anyway. *Making a difference between content of a thread, and the title, is nonsensical. *The title made me smile and those that are offended and feel violated have issues to take care of within themself.

[Mystic7]

I'm glad to see you standing up for your right to say "fuck" That's incorrect. I was stating that PJ was not being respectful to tell someone else that they should have manners. I thought that wer had a better idea of what respectful means than PJ. P.S The poll actually indicates it's the people that know, VS the people that don't care. And a small majority in lala land. 1 person. Probably Universal Mind.

[Universal Mind]

That's incorrect. I was stating that PJ was not being respectful to tell someone else that they should have manners. I thought that wer had a better idea of what respectful means than PJ. Oh, I thought you were addressing the issue of the thread. By telling PJ he wasn't being respectful, weren't you telling him he should have manners? Also, PJ's point was not that Wer was not being respectful. PJ's point was that he (PJ) was being extra respectful by removing "fuck" from the thread title list that everybody sees on the main forum page. P.S The poll actually indicates it's the people that know, VS the people that don't care. And a small majority in lala land. 1 person. Probably Universal Mind. The people that "know"? I argued why I don't think the admitted policies qualify as torture. You are welcome to counter my points. As far as actual inescapable inducement of severe agony, I admit that I don't know, but that must be really strange to a person like you who never hesitates to leap to conclusions that fit the ideology you think it would be the most fun to have.

[Mystic7]

My perspective is the result of the best discernment that I am capable of. It's not what is the most fun idea to live with. I go on what I think is best for everyone that is what matters to me. Since we are not telepathic yet it's difficult to convey to you what I actually know and what I am conveying. So it may vary widely from your experience. I don't jump to an ideology because it's fun. That isn't my motivation. But I will admit the truth is more exciting than a lie.

[pj]

PJ what you said is not making sense. That doesn't surprise me at all. Perhaps some day it will.

[Never]

I voted "don't care". There is nothing wrong with saying whatever you feel as long as you are intelligent enough to understand the consequences of your actions. This guy probably doesn't; for obviously anyone he is trying to reach cannot be reached through such means, making the entire thing pointless and making him look like a fool.

[Mystic7]

That doesn't surprise me at all. Perhaps some day it will. I know what you think it means...