Thread: 9/11 Truth

well you make up whichever excuse suits your needs.

Originally Posted by Mystic7

well you make up whichever excuse suits your needs.

are you saying that about what you said about the flying pink swordfish? or the wind contributing to the heat of the fire?

I'm guessing the flying pink swordfish because I thought my statement was pretty valid... It's a known fact.

Your not thinking straight. So I reponded in some equally unbalanced thinking for you to meddle with. I was also kidding. Lighten up.

These empirically verifiable data are what we know. We do not know who planted the explosives or why. All individuals are innocent until proven guilty and an extensive trial putting many key players on the stand would have to occur before we were able to even begin to put the pieces together for every single motive and event of that day.

Also, see the thread in the philosophy forum for an analysis of the thermate evidence.

We also know that Sibel Edmonds and at least a dozen other FBI whistleblowers have indicated that the FBI has been infiltrated by criminal elements who aided the 9/11 terrorists. Sibel Edmonds who claims to have documented evidence of this fact has been gagged by the highest authority - The Attorney General's Office, even after her claims were substantiated by a preliminary by the Justice Department. Since that time gags orders have been repeatedly placed on Edmonds, and even the U.S. Congress form hearing her testimony. What in the world are they hiding? Why is Congress allowing Executive Privilege to override congressional oversight? Ill outline the legal arguments if you cant see them.

This appeal to executive privilege has also been used in the NSA spying scandal to exempt testimony and evidence. It has also been used in the Riggs Bank case where Bush's uncle was found to have allowed money laundering to two Saudi terrorists responsible for the 9/11 hijackings. Do you think it is suspicious that the brother of the President (who is already under fire for not going after the Saudi source of funding for the 9./11 terrorists), is now found guilty of laundering money to the 9/11 terrorists?

There are hundreds of coincidences that nearly prove a conspiracy. They simply need more investigation before a full chronological picture of the events can emerge.

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Originally Posted by memeticverb
I never said anything about remote controlled planes, missiles, fake cell phones, nor anything else you built up to knock down.

Each of us who have actually admitted there are discrepancies in the official account have been sticking to the facts of what happened, and looking for the best possible explanation that accommodates them. We understand parsimony in scientific and logical investigation.

ONE fact accommodates all of this evidence:

"1. Extremely rapid onset of “collapse”
2. Sounds of explosions (heard by 118 first responders as well as by media reporters)
3. Observations of flashes
4. Squibs, or “mistimed” explosions, 40 floors below the “collapsing” building seen in all the videos
5. Mid-air pulverization of all the 90,000 tons of concrete and steel decking, filing cabinets & 1000 people – mostly to dust
6. Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic dust clouds
7. Vertical progression of full building perimeter demolition waves
8. Symmetrical collapse – through the path of greatestno resistance – at free-fall speed — the columns gave resistance
9. 1,400 foot diameter field of equally distributed debris – outside of building footprint
10. Blast waves blew out windows in buildings 400 feet away
11. Lateral ejection of thousands of individual 20 - 50 ton steel beams up to 500 feet
12. Total destruction of the building down to individual structural steel elements – obliterating the steel core structure.
13. Tons of molten Metal found by FDNY under all 3 high-rises (no other possible source other than an incendiary cutting charge such as Thermate)
14. Chemical signature of Thermate (high tech incendiary)dust samples by Physics professor Steven Jones, PhD. found in slag, solidified molten metal, and
15. FEMA finds rapid oxidation and intergranular melting on structural steel samples
16. More than 1000 Bodies are unaccounted for — 700 tiny bone fragments found on top of nearby buildings
And exhibited none of the characteristics of destruction by fire, i.e.
1. Slow onset with large visible deformations
2. Asymmetrical collapse which follows the path of least resistance (laws of conservation of momentum would cause a falling, intact, from the point of plane impact, to the side most damaged by the fires)
3. Evidence of fire temperatures capable of softening steel
4. High-rise buildings with much larger, hotter, and longer lasting fires have never “collapsed”

Taken from Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth.

Ill also add, basement explosions.

And WTC7 as compared to a controlled demolition.

Again, one fact can easily explain all of these occurrences, which are not explained by the official story.

None of this even touching on the all of the facts surrounding the attempts by the U.S. government to cover-up everything from the 118 testimonies of explosions posted above, to ex-FBI agents who claim there are people in the FBI who are aided the terrorists, and are still doing so.

Why did John Ashcroft place gag orders on Sibel Edmonds who claims to have evidence of FBI complicit in 9/11? Why did he also gag congress from even hearing her evidence when Congress had called her in to testify and present evidence?

Why did the City of New York's government force the 911 Families to court 3 times before being forced to release the first responders testimony, which detailed explosions?

None of these facts or questions have been explained or answered (but instead covered-up) by any official source.