Quote Originally Posted by skysaw View Post
Back to the oil/war connection...

Can anyone remember the last time we went to war against a country that didn't have more oil than we do?
Was Somalia about oil? Eastern Europe? The Cold War battles in Central America?

If it were about oil, we would already own Canada. Are they next? Why are we making up excuses to go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan instead of the biggest oil spot in the world-- Saudi Arabia? Why not Kuwait, who would be a piece of cake? Why not the United Arab Emirates? It is because their governments are not terrorist enemies.

Quote Originally Posted by skysaw View Post
Anyone still think we cared about Hussain's anti-humanitarian acts? You know, the one he's been carrying on for many, many years without our lifting a finger?
Nobody is claiming the humanitarian concern could have stood alone as a basis for the war. I have said that many times in this thread. The war has been about a long list of things. Long term noncompliance with our ceasefire was a big one. 9/11 changed our foreign policy greatly (I hope are aren't one of the people who claims it was an inside job.). We even gave the Hussein regime many warnings, and he ignored them. Then we gave Hussein a chance to leave the country and avoid war, and he passed it up. Those all suggest that we were trying to avoid the need for war.

Very importantly, the only reason a war is happening right now is that there is a terrorist insurgency of nuts who don't want democracy in Iraq. They believe in oppressive totalitarianism and do not respect rights, and they are shooting at us and bombings us because we are protecting the new government which does. Without their violent aggression, we would have been gone long ago. We are just there as a force to counter the terrorists while the new government by the people gets strong enough to take care of itself. Iraq is not an American colony. The oil belongs to Iraq. It always will.